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    No respect: Borders and Border Patrol

    I thought this was a pretty cool ariticle.

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    A shame about the situation on the borders...

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    I agree, an excellent article that addresses SOME of the problems facing the lone Officer/Agent in the field. The mission, being what it is, is incredibly dangerous due to the variables confronted - alone. This single issue - alone - is, to me, an issue that needs to be corrected ASAP, especially with the recent murder of the BPA. In the military if there is a need to investigate something that went "bump" in the night, in most cases, a team/squad would be used. Few missions use a single operative, a single sniper element comes to mind, but then again, our mission was different than BP. If you guys could use a sniper element, things might be a little more simple.

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    I've often said BP should operate in a quasi-military manner.

    - 2 days/week rotation to the field and bivouac onsite.
    - 2 vehicles, dune buggy or SUV (whatever terrain dictates).
    - 2 of those people should be a designated marksman (sniper) equipped with a .308 minimum rifle, a .50 BMG should be optional.
    - Equip them with smoke and incindiary grenades, illum flares and any applicable optic devices.
    - 2-man patrols while the other two stay at the bivouac site unless called out by the patrol team.
    - The ones that aren't snipers should be equipped with .308 semi-auto combat rifles.
    - Unknown vehicles or vehicles seen crossing the border should be stopped with several rounds fired into the engine compartment/wheel well area and retina-searing light shined into the passenger compartment. If the vehicle fails to stop, do whatever it takes to MAKE it stop.
    - Logistical arrangements would be made for transport vans to respond to one of several pre-determined locations to retrieve and begin processing the people captured.

    Now, this is just the viewpoint of a citizen who also happens to be a cop and a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, so take it for what it's worth. :D
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    I agree 100%, the threat has progressed to a level that (in my opinion) should be met with a strong military operation. Army here, but I agree with the Devil Dog's assessment - Semper Fi - I loved all the fun attention of Quantico as an Army sniper....Marines are a blast!

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    With what they have to deal with, Rogue Mexican Army units, and crazy druglord cronies they should operate in a militaristic manner. At least pair 'em up and give up some automatic weapons. If any agency is outgunned, it's them.

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    Pretty crazy, I have seen a documentary on CBP and it's pretty dangerous.. Dealing with Drug cartels and military trained personal from foreign countries is a really dangerous profession... I think the president should put some Seal units and Reckon units side by side to help you guys out in bad situations.... God bless you all, and may god look over you.
    Take care.. And thank you for keeping our country safe.

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    Thread necromancy is frowned upon in these parts. 45 days is the limit.

    Aside from that, you clearly have no understanding of the mission of SEALs and Recon (not Reckon). They are trained and bound by a completely different set of rules than law enforcement.
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    I agree, however, the problem is when they put troops on the border they don't issue them ammo, they're just used as observers they don't really have any arrest authority. It would be much easier if the politicans would let the Border Patrol and ICE do their jobs without fear of bad press.

    Example--Operation Wetback-1954

    " 'The effort began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies, to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region. By the end of July, over 50,000 immigrants were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 illegal immigrants are claimed to have left voluntarily for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas on their own. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexico before releasing them.' "

    -Imagine what they could do with the 18,000+ Border Patrol Agents we have now in comparison to what they had then?

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    Edit- - I got rid of the bad press aspect of it =) You can search wikipedia Operation Wetback to read the full article.
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    I would also like to see air support.. Lots and lots of air support. I'm talking gunships (apache's, cobra's) hell, even a few fighter/bombers in there too.
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