SPLC Calls Minutemen "Right wing hate group".

[hscop]

The minutemen or just a reporting group. They find where they are coming over the border and contact the US Border Patrol. Thats all they do.

[chewy]

I'm all for these people doing what they need to do to try and help the illegal immigrant problem.

What I am worried about is some lunatic taking justice into his/her own hands and killing someone.

Why are you worried? Fear of death is a VERY powerful deterrent. There are people that get caught and returned over and over and over again, they are obviously not deterred at all, now if they think that some psycho rancher is going to beat them to death or shoot them in the back then maybe they will think twice before crossing! I am sick and tired of all the soft hearts pissing and moaning about violation of rights and illegals guarantee to rights, this is a war and should be handled as one. Screw ‘em all. We should just invade Mexico and make it a part of us then they won’t be illegal anymore...besides, I’m sure we could say they have WMD somewhere…hehe

[Valor55]

The minutemen or just a reporting group. They find where they are coming over the border and contact the US Border Patrol. Thats all they do.

No, that's not all they do. All those right wing, psychopathic, nutjobs will also be offering food and water to those who have made the 2 day trek across the desert. I can't believe how heartless and cruel they can be. :rolleyes:

[hscop]

They will be offering food and water to who? The illigals?

[Valor55]

They will be offering food and water to who? The illigals?

Yes. I've heard that in several news reports that they are offering food and water. Of course the Border Patrol is on the way too. :D

[hscop]

You would not offer extra food and water to someone who is starving after they walked for 2 days across a desert?

[not5150]

Valor55 is referring to an illegal immigrant that wandered into the Minuteman basecamp (which is at a bible college). The illegal was dehydrated and hungry. The Minutemen gave him food and water, possibly saving his life.

[not5150]

No they're not called anything because they're the ones who the state and federal agencies "cover up" so people won't get as pissed off about the hundreds and thousands of ILLEGAL imigrants crossing the border every night, even as I type this reply on this thread. The reason we don't hear about the numerous crimes the imigrants commit toward our law abiding hard working blue collard American citizens is because if we heard more about it we'd be more apt to do something about it and the MinuteMan Project is a good example of people who found out and got fed up, someof whom are imigrants themselves. Oh yeah that and there'd be more attention brought toward how just short staffed the Border Patrol really is and the lack of government funding that is causing those agencies to be shorthanded. I for one comend the people of the MMP, police agencies in all of the border states, and especially the brave men and women of the United States Border Patrol. GOOD JOB!!!!!

My post was directed towards future_hopeful and apparently sarcasm doesn't travel well in a post.

[hscop]

There is nothing wrong with giving someone food and water, no matter who it is.

[LEOWannabe]

I'm all for these people doing what they need to do to try and help the illegal immigrant problem.

What I am worried about is some lunatic taking justice into his/her own hands and killing someone.

True but so far they have only acted in a responsible manner. From what I heard they only call the CBP when they spot an illegal. They havent violated anybodies rights nor have they tried to take anyone into custody themselves.

About the article, it refers to them as a "militia"? And I always thought you had to be armed in order to be a militia. :rolleyes:

[chewy]

... nor have they tried to take anyone into custody themselves.

??? these are the same people that have been doing this for several years now. They are just organizing. They definatly DO take people into custody, just not with cuffs. They catch them then round them into a small group and surround them with armed citizens. I don't see a problem with it really, they have been doing it for years and there haven't really been too many problems yet.

[AndrewTx]

Chewy,

I don't know about what they've been doing in the past, but I trust your word. However, I don't believe that volunteers participating in the current minuteman project are detaining anyone. The information on their website says that while the organizers honor the right of the other volunteers to carry while watching, they have been instructed to maintain and track from a safe distance, inform BP, and not engage in a hostile confrontation. I posted those guidelines from the MM website in another thread here.

EDIT: Here's the thread to which I refer:

http://www.forums.realpolice.net/showthread.php?t=31064

[hscop]

I'm shocked that Valor55 thinks its a bad thing to offer food and water to someone who is starving. Also, no matter what this group does it is verry hard for them to violate someones rights. They are an organization, not part of the government. I agree with you chewy, I also dont see a problem.

[Valor55]

I'm shocked that Valor55 thinks its a bad thing to offer food and water to someone who is starving. Also, no matter what this group does it is verry hard for them to violate someones rights. They are an organization, not part of the government. I agree with you chewy, I also dont see a problem.

I was being very sarcastic. Everyone in the media is saying they are hate mongers and nut jobs who are violating these poor people's civil rights which clearly isn't the case. I completely support what they are doing and I think it is only humane to offer food and water while waiting for the BP to show up.

[hscop]

Valor55: hehe okay, good. I was about to say.