NYPD Backround

[Mike84]

Well I'd like to start off by saying hello and this is my first post.

Im not going to ask you to evaluate my post only to say I have some strikes against me but we as men and women trying to become LEO's must relax regarding our backround investigation and let the B.I. come to the conclusion of what type of person we are. For myself personally this is what my investigator will be looking at

I have a marijuana possesion charge as well as an open container summons that I recieved in 2007. The marijuana charge was dropped but I did have marijuana on me and theres no reason to even try and hide it. Between 20-22 years old I smoked marijuana about 10-12 times which is the truth. That time period in my life I hung around with a bunch of knuckle heads and got caught up in a stupid situation

I have a disorderly conduct charge in 2008 which I plead guilty to. It was a situation in defense of my brother. I'm not real worried about this

Havnt had any problems with my license since november 2009. I have 2 unregirstered vehicle tickets, 1 crossing the hazzard ticket in 2008 and a using cell phone while driving ticket in 2008. I have no points on my license at this point per my abstract

I've spoken to current LEO's in the NYPD that are friends of mine that say I'll have no problems while others have said some of this can cause DQ. Personally I have no idea but I have nothing to lose but a whole lot to gain. I took everones advice and told them everything! Hopefully in the near future I can call myself an NYPD officer if not then its not in the cards. Just sent out my ADP-5 form yesterday and thanks for the site. There seems to be alot of usefull info

[mcsap]

So what drivers license problems did you have before 2009 that you didn't mention ? ( or is everything else in your post what you did UP to 2009 ?

Any suspensions / revocations ?

My PD requires 5 yrs clean of any drugs. Other cites and arrests are looked at on an individual basis. What you think of the reasonaing behind your DC charge , the fact is you still got arrested. Any arrest is always in the not good category.

Drug charge ( dropped ) in 2007
Open container 2007.
Smoked MJ 10-12 times.
DC in 2008.
2 unregistered vehicle tickets.
1 crossing the hazard ticket.

I would say its fair to state that you have some baggage. You may not be an auto DQ but you had better SHINE in the other areas of your life and have now lived like a saint. Because you will be against people who don't have half of what you earned.

Any college or military ?

[Mike84]

Hello mcsap. I really didnt go into detail on my driving record so I'll break it down.

2 expired registration tickets
1 driving while using my cell
1 crossing the hazzard

My license has been suspended before for about a week. I recieved the notice in the mail and answered it quickly. To be honest I have some college but no degree and have no military. I klnow in most departments I probably wouldnt have a shot but a few friends of mine convinced me the NYPD may over look these discrepancies. I know NYPD says no marijuana use within 3 years I havnt used marijuana in almost 5 years. I havnt had any traffic problems in 2 years. Trust me I know the odds are stacked against me but I'll never know unless I give it a shot right?

[Mike84]

Sorry and all the traffic problems was between 2008-2009

[Joeyd6]

Mike,

I worked in NYPD APD for a short period of time. I am a NY'er and do not sugar coat anything. If I come off offensive, its who I am not and not personal. With that said, you are an automatic DQ with the NYPD.

The NYPD looks at arrests, not convictions. I won't get into why or the what, but its the way it works. There is usually more truth in a the arresting charge than what a court pleas it down to. The NYPD policy is clear, one misdemeanor arrest may be "waived," if such was for a non-drug offense. You have three, and one is a drug charge. The DC or OC may have been a summons to criminal court, however a summons to criminal court in NYC is always "in liu of arrest." Meaning the street cop cut you some slack and made a judgement call.

Additionally, you driving skills are very carefully reviewed at the NYPD. The NYPD has had problems with off-duty cops and DWI. They also have liability issues with cops driving like maniacs in the city and not following the rules. The rule is "If they can't drive safe on their own time when they are not a cop, they definatley won't do so with our badge." They don't care what the charges are (unless DUI/DWI), just number of tickets. The brass of thw NYPD beliwve in "Once a ______, always a ______."

It is worth a try to make yourself feel better. But I would seriously come up with a back-up plan. The way it will work is you will: meet your BI; pay the city $ to run your prints; have a written psych; do a medical; have oral psych where you will get grilled and never hear from the NYPD again. No letter, no call. Your inquiry will be met with "you are on a psych hold." You will stay there till your exam expires. The NYPD has a pool of canidates with clean backgrounds and veterans preference. The current pool of canidates is around 23,000. And each year they MAY hire two classes, ranging from 500 to 1,500.

[Mike84]

Hi JoeyD and thanks for the reply

I appreciate the heads up and trust me I wont be putting all my eggs in 1 basket. I currently have a steady job that I've been in for 5 years dispatching the metro area. I just feel at this point I have nothing to lose and might as well see what the B.I. thinks. Right now I also will be signing up for testing with the FDNY which I believe is in early spring. If the NYPD feels they don't need me I'll tip my hat and say thanks for your time if they do well then I have a career. Thanks again JoeyD alot of good info

[Joeyd6]

FDNY Fire just cmae under major scrutiny for hiring guys with any arrest.

Howvere FDNY EMS is a foot in the door, and then you can take the promotional test to firefighter. A little longer road, off beat traveled path, but you end up at the same place.

[Mike84]

Well by the time the FDNY sets me up for the hiring process it will probably be 2014 so it gives me some time to manuvier and keep myself in a good light. The FDNY is under more scrunity about they're minority hiring then they're employment criminal record IMHO. We'll see, as I said earlier I will not give up hope with either department until I get a legit no from them or they stop contacting me. Its the only way in my opinion to properly deal with these processes.