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    less than stellar background....should I even bother pursuing LEO

    Hey folks :

    I don't have the most stellar background but I would like any input as to my chances of getting hired ..

    A little about me

    36 years old
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    no college credits
    poor credit (due to long term unemployment)
    experimental drug use 15-20 years ago(everything except heroin and steroids)
    uncharacterized discharge from the army(medical)
    married 2nd wife before 1st divorce was finalized(error in court filing) now corrected
    still happily married to 2nd wife
    currently a volunteer firefighter
    currently a volunteer with EMS agency
    Former sworn Deputy(detention division)out of state
    above average evaluations from former LE department (exception 1 bad comment form one LT)
    occasional alcohol use
    criminal history: 2 bad checks(civil) paid restitution 1 no operators license(not suspended just did not have it with me when stopped) 15 years ago
    arrested once never booked for a warrant which was entered in error dismissed by magistrate(18 years ago)
    no speeding tickets
    1 expired registration ticket(dismissed) 3 years ago
    1 obscured plate ticket(dismissed) 3 years ago
    1 no insurance ticket(active policy, expired card)(dismissed) 3 years ago
    I know the competition is brutal but do I have a chance ?

    If not... are there any suggestions you can offer to help improve my chances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    experimental drug use 15-20 years ago(everything except heroin and steroids)
    EVERYTHING EXCEPT , this is going to DQ you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outshined View Post
    EVERYTHING EXCEPT , this is going to DQ you.
    ^^^this^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    experimental drug use 15-20 years ago(everything except heroin and steroids)
    Sorry, but this is going to be an automatic DQ from every department that I know. Nothing you can do will improve your chances, you can't take back the past.
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    OK , what is EVERYTHING ?
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    OK , what is EVERYTHING ?

    By everything I mean exstacy 1 time ,LSD ,1 time cocaine(not crack) and weed about 10 times

    I don't get why something from 15-20 years ago which I was not arrested for is causing such an issue. It didn't prevent me from getting a sworn position with an S.O. in the past. whats changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    OK , what is EVERYTHING ?

    By everything I mean exstacy 1 time ,LSD ,1 time cocaine(not crack) and weed about 10 times

    I don't get why something from 15-20 years ago which I was not arrested for is causing such an issue. It didn't prevent me from getting a sworn position with an S.O. in the past. whats changed?
    Maybe you should try to get back on at the agency you worked for before.

    What everyone is trying to say, myself included, is that the standards applied in todays economy and the litiguous society that we live in, it just isn't going to happen. As far as I know nothing has changed, and quite frankly, with your history I am surprised you were hired.

    The amount of time that has passed since you did any and evrything is great, good for you. Best of luck to you, and as has been said so many times, the only way to know for sure is to apply and see what happens.
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    The uncharacterized military discharge also has me wondering. That can mean a little or a lot. But it isn't an honorable and you wouldn't qualify for the veteran's preference points with a civil service dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    whats changed?
    What's changed is that nobody that is on here replying to you has worked for or near this S.O. that allegedly hired you, and thusly are only responding about their own departments and those in their immediate vicinity.

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    Agree with above comments. Also, have to wonder why you are a former Deputy. You don't mention why you left. Everything considered, you won't be getting hired for LE.
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    in response to a couple of posts : the reason I left my last department was because I was offered a position with another department in a different state closer to my family. That position did not come through due to statewide budget cuts. Also that whole department, I found out later was under indictment from the Feds so I'm glad that fell through I no longer live in the state in which I was working for the S.O. Also What other red flags would be an automatic DQ aside from the drug use? or is the drug use the main reason or is it a combination of issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    is the drug use the main reason or is it a combination of issues?
    Quote Originally Posted by deputywave View Post
    Everything considered, you won't be getting hired for LE.
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    Also I may have been unclear with my earlier post I posted cocaine and weed 10 times it should have read cocaine 1 time and weed about 10 times. no that it makes a difference form what I'm reading
    Also it seems like everyone here is focusing on the negative and totally overlooking the positive aspects. such as the volunteerism and the above average evaluations from my former department I'm not sure if it is enough to off set the negative?
    P.S. I appreciate all the feed back even it it's not favorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    in response to a couple of posts : the reason I left my last department was because I was offered a position with another department in a different state closer to my family. That position did not come through due to statewide budget cuts. Also that whole department, I found out later was under indictment from the Feds so I'm glad that fell through I no longer live in the state in which I was working for the S.O. Also What other red flags would be an automatic DQ aside from the drug use? or is the drug use the main reason or is it a combination of issues?
    Not an honorable discharge. What was the reason behind that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noboyscout View Post
    Also it seems like everyone here is focusing on the negative and totally overlooking the positive aspects.
    That is because your negatives outweigh your positives. You think we are focusing on your negatives, think about what a hiring board will focus on.
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