Fired from job 8 years ago

[shadowjin]

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[Safety Steve]

Your biggest hurdle will be the fact that you signed a confession statement admitting you committed a crime! Being accused of it and denying it could be one thing, but signing the confession statement and now denying it is another.

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[shadowjin]

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[Kimble]

Technically, they were the company's loss prevention department. Not really law enforcement...

That has zero relevance to the situation, and doesn't help your case. Fact is you still admitted to committing a crime, the company simply decided not to contact the police and press charges against you.

Do you think this is something that will really hold me back or will additional time help settle it? I wouldn't be considering a career change to law enforcement at this point in my life if it was about the money.

It absolutely could, theft of $5000 is a felony in every jurisdiction I'm aware of. Also, theft from an employer of funds is a crime of moral purtitude, which despite your story to the contrary now, you admitted to being guilty of doing so (and it's documented and easily retreivable).

Not saying don't apply, as 8 years is a long time to try to mitigate a bad decision, but be honest (guaranteed they're going to find this one out during your background investigation since it's documented and the reason for your termination) and let the chips fall where they may.

[shadowjin]

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[GoDirectly2Jail]

Before I got into this line of work, I was a floating teller for a local bank. A floating teller goes from branch to branch, filling in for vacations, illnesses, absences, etc. I got to meet many bank employees that I normally wouldn't by being stuck in one location. BUT, it also made me an unknown face to the regular employees wherever I was.

Anyway, one day I went to a branch I had never been to before. I worked all day, and at closing time, my drawer was exactly $1,000.00 short. A thousand bucks is a big deal, and I could tell the branch manager wasn't really sure about me, but I stuck to my guns that I had done nothing wrong, and that it was a paperwork error. I settled short and had to attach all kinds of documentation to send to the audit department.

About a week later, I was back to that branch, and the manager told me that the proof department had found the problem and it had been fixed. ($1,000 overage in another drawer)

The point is that the nature of the business is that every transaction has lots of documentation. Did you ever contact Wells Fargo again to see if their audit or proof departments ever discovered a $5,000 overage later on? If you truly didn't take that money, the paper trail should've eventually exonerated you.

[shadowjin]

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[mcsap]

Spill your guts to everything and see what happens.

If you " confessed" , did you pay it back in any manner or they just let you ( a confessed thief) walk away with 5k of their money ??

[shadowjin]

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[Chef_Au]

So you signed a false confession, handed over 5k of your own hard earned over something you "didn't do"

Cal me a sceptic, but I wouldn't hand over a brass razoo if I hadn't done it.

Regardless of the holes in the story, saying that you signed a false confession and handed over money to someone that hadn't earned it shows to me that you can be pressured into making unsound and unjustified decisions.

Not a good trait for a copper.

Shows you wont stick to your guns in the face of adverse pressure or dont have the internal fortitude to see your decisions through.

Sorry but for mine, 5k confessiona AND payback screams prima facie guilt to me and you even signed on the dotted line to say you were.

You'd probably be looking at life DQ here.

[wisco]

Cal me a sceptic, but I wouldn't hand over a brass razoo if I hadn't done it.

Off topic, I'm sorry... but what the heck is a "brass razoo"??

[AlphaZulu]

By all means do not take this in the wrong way, this is something that should always be disclosed to any company you are applying too.

I currently work in loss prevention and I focus on the internal aspect

I am required the retain all information relating to internal investigation for 8 years, after that we must shred.
I can only guess that a bank would have a longer retention maybe around 10 or so
But I can't see any specifics of that case being around any more.
So basically, even if they found the "real" reason later it probably not around, and since you never got your 5k back and no one called offering you your job, that was locked up once you signed that paper.

I do not know what the expectation for HR is to keep your employee record around but if they even still have that it probably says terminated with a reason of fraud.

Now on to my original reason for replying:

I can not see why they did not prosecute you.
First, 5 grand,
second, you say they say you fudged the reports, meaning they had some other kind of evidence like video surveillance or reports of their own that linked you to this crime
however, on the flip side being a 6 month employee it could have allowed them to interview you all riding on a confession, but they still needed something concrete, a gut feeling, bright lights and a suit isn't enough.
I have pulled people for interviews based off of funny stuff on a report or stuff I see on video, but can never get someone because 5 grand is missing from their drawer and they were the ones using that drawer....doesn't work that way.
Not too long ago I closed a case of an employee stealing cash. He worked for less then 1 year and the only evidence I had was reports showing shortage on days he worked in the areas he worked, and one video clip of him walking away from a terminal with 40 bucks in his hand, which was normal if they needed more ones or fives (but he never came back). I pulled him and got a confession for over 1 grand over the past year, he signed confession and signed his pay check away and has to pay back what he admitted too.
Morale of this story is he received a court date a little after that and was convicted.

Doing those kind of investigations everyday I see too many problems in this story, the big one is that you didn't receive a court date after all that, even after paying it all back the next day.

I would say no go with LEO, be thankful for what you got now and that you were somehow never convicted of a crime

I'm not accusing you of this, only you know the truth, just seems odd, that is all

[Disclaimer: LP policies vary so greatly from company to company, this is just based off what I have experienced with these type of situations at one company]

[Joeyd6]

There is more to the story than we are being told. NO BANK, has an employee ADMIT and WRITE a confession they stole $5K and not pursue it criminally or civilly to at least get restitution, especially 8 years ago when money actaully had value!

Bank tellers are required by the FDIC to be bonded. And when money is stolen, the bond company revokes the bond. CHase was either never told about the incident and/or never did a full background check, becuase under FDIC bonding requirments, he would not have been elegible for a bond and thus not elegible to be a teller.

And lets be honest folks, those of us who are cops can usually tell when we interview somebody and accuse them of something, if they are guilty or innocent. Nobody sits in a room with corporate security, when they did nothing wrong, and confesses and writes out a statement saying they did somthing they did not do. Even if they did, they would have immediatley went home and called a lawyer or conatcted somebody saying they did not do it and was being accused of doing it.

There is a lot more to this story.

[shadowjin]

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[Joeyd6]

I've laid out all the facts and no amount of denial on my part will change the fact that I was found responsible. I'm not sure why Wells Fargo didn't pursue charges either.

In any case, I appreciate the honest answers. I've reconsidered pursuing a LE career for now and will continue on my current path of finishing my engineering degree. Maybe a few years down the line I'll think about it again. Thanks.

Why don't you call them and ask if they resolved the matter? Why not set-up a meeting with the secuorty manger and ask? Maybe they found the administrative error with the money order and you are worrying over nothing.