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    Post LE Resignation and new job interview

    Any insights would help.
    I'm a former LE. I completed a little over a year in the court system and then went to patrol. I resigned on my last phase of patrol training. At the time, I felt the training I received was inadequate and had a personality issue with one T/O.

    I am a former Marine (Ret.) and know what training is all about. By no means do I want to come across as cocky. I just want to be a Law Enforcement Officer once again.

    Anyway, I have put out applications to other agencies. It has been 7 months and finally I received an interview with an agency.

    My question: How and what do I tell the QAI, why I resigned.

    My goal is to become a Law Enforcement Officer-I cannot give up.

    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPaintHorse View Post
    Any insights would help.
    I'm a former LE. I completed a little over a year in the court system and then went to patrol. I resigned on my last phase of patrol training. At the time, I felt the training I received was inadequate and had a personality issue with one T/O.

    I am a former Marine (Ret.) and know what training is all about. By no means do I want to come across as cocky. I just want to be a Law Enforcement Officer once again.

    Anyway, I have put out applications to other agencies. It has been 7 months and finally I received an interview with an agency.

    My question: How and what do I tell the QAI, why I resigned.

    My goal is to become a Law Enforcement Officer-I cannot give up.

    Thank You
    How would any of us know why you resigned? If you were interviewing a potential applicant, how would you want/expect that applicant to answer?

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    Chances

    I apologise,

    I am looking at the chances of getting hired. I know it doesn't look good on my part, but you never know.

    I guess the question should be, have you know anyone to get hired from resigning from phase training?

    Thank you

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    Of course people have been hired in that circumstance.

    If the new department contacts your old department and you left on pretty good terms, you will probably be fine.

    If there were other training issues that you have not disclosed to us, then you may have a harder time.

    Not every cop is a fit for every department, and not every cop can get along with every training officer.

    I would say that if you quit a second department in field training, you are probably done for, but you should still be in the running now.

    One could even argue that you made the right call; it's not easy to walk away from a situation like that but sometimes it's the best thing for everyone.

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    There are many reasons why people leave during their training phase. I just had a guy leave my department in November last year to join a larger better paying agency.He had been with us almost 3 years.

    Before he left I asked him why this agency had such large turnover even though they paid at least $10,000 better than surrounding agencies. In January he called and asked if he could come back. Since he was a good troop, I of course hired him back. I have had a few people leave during their training phase and I would rate them good officers. They were not a good fit for the agency, or maybe the agency was not a good fit for them. Almost all were good officers I hated to lose.

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    There will be a lot of factors to be considered.

    I was fortunate, I applied for one dept and liked it. However, after having some experience in the field and looking at some of the surrounding departments, I would have quit had I started with them.

    That being said, if this was because of a personality conflict with one guy, that could be a problem. Quitting over the culture of a particular department and quitting because of a pissing match with one T.O. are two different issues.
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    A new Law Enforcement Agency

    I do know one thing, if I'm hired and they are willing to give me a second chance, I will make it.
    I spent the majority of my phase training at night, 3/4 at night and 1/4 in the day. If given a second chance and I was to have one whole phase during the day which I did not, I know this would make a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPaintHorse View Post
    I do know one thing, if I'm hired and they are willing to give me a second chance, I will make it.
    I spent the majority of my phase training at night, 3/4 at night and 1/4 in the day. If given a second chance and I was to have one whole phase during the day which I did not, I know this would make a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPaintHorse View Post
    I do know one thing, if I'm hired and they are willing to give me a second chance, I will make it.
    I spent the majority of my phase training at night, 3/4 at night and 1/4 in the day. If given a second chance and I was to have one whole phase during the day which I did not, I know this would make a huge difference.
    Why would this make a difference?

    The job is the job, morning, noon, or night. There are differences in calls and traffic patterns, sure, but I don't know why this would make such a huge difference in your training...

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    I don't understand that line of logic, at all. All my FTO was done at night and the first few years of my career was working nights. Maybe I could have been a better cop if I had worked a FTO phase during the day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPaintHorse View Post
    I do know one thing, if I'm hired and they are willing to give me a second chance, I will make it.
    I spent the majority of my phase training at night, 3/4 at night and 1/4 in the day. If given a second chance and I was to have one whole phase during the day which I did not, I know this would make a huge difference.
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    Clarification

    Radio calls we received during the night (DV's, disturbances, alarm checks, etc.) were different from the day (robbery, burglary). So when the last phase came (day) and we received a radio call, one I never had from nights, I was told I should know how to handle it by now.

    I guess the question should be, should there be an equal amount of time on day and night so a trainee can get the exposure so he/she can handle the radio call?

    I'm just concerned about the exposure to various radio calls from day and night, that's all.

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    That makes sense. I haven't taken a fraud or shoplifting call on midnights, but those are calls daywork guys go on all the time. It's odd that they would expect you to know that when they know you've been on midnights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPaintHorse View Post
    Radio calls we received during the night (DV's, disturbances, alarm checks, etc.) were different from the day (robbery, burglary). So when the last phase came (day) and we received a radio call, one I never had from nights, I was told I should know how to handle it by now.

    Where I work, we have Days, PMs, and EMs and each shift overlaps. I trained on PMs and EMs. IME, for the most part, we get the same calls on all three shifts. There are a few differences but not many - all the serious crimes (including all the ones you listed above) happen on all three shifts. PMs is busiest and EMs and Days are less busy.

    I guess the question should be, should there be an equal amount of time on day and night so a trainee can get the exposure so he/she can handle the radio call?

    Depends. I didn't need to train on Days in order to handle typical Day Shift calls.

    I'm just concerned about the exposure to various radio calls from day and night, that's all.
    IMO, if you can handle Nights/PMs, you should be able to handle Days...

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