Traffic violations on police application please help

[tnyblgn3]

so I should just forget about this department and move on? Or is there anything I can do?

[ChevySSP]

Sgt. Slaughter, Roger dat
I didn't know I had to be so proper on these forums to impress jerks that like to criticize and pass judgment to compensate for their own insecurities; Police officers like your selves, are the reason law enforcement has such a bad reputation in society. Maybe you should take some advice from your mother and if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all.

Dude, are you serious???


You do realize what they are telling you isn't even CLOSE to how they are going to treat you at an academy.

[Roger Dat]

My mother said to tell people like it is, if you dont like it then I could really care less.

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Sgt. Slaughter, Roger dat
I didn't know I had to be so proper on these forums to impress jerks that like to criticize and pass judgment to compensate for their own insecurities; Police officers like your selves, are the reason law enforcement has such a bad reputation in society. Maybe you should take some advice from your mother and if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all.

Perhaps you need to take that stick out of your ass. You want to get into this career field, you'd better learn to accept criticism without getting your panties in a bunch.

You know nothing about either one of us or how we work, so I suggest you take this time to learn when to watch your mouth. If not, I foresee you having a very short stay here.

[Safety Steve]

Dude, are you serious???


You do realize what they are telling you isn't even CLOSE to how they are going to treat you at an academy.

If he shows up at the academy with quotes from his "Mommy", I'm sure he will be treated the right way :D!!!!!!!!!!.

You lied over traffic tickets. Makes me wonder what else you are hiding. Be Safe.

[tnyblgn3]

If he shows up at the academy with quotes from his "Mommy", I'm sure he will be treated the right way :D!!!!!!!!!!.

You lied over traffic tickets. Makes me wonder what else you are hiding. Be Safe.

I just talk to Lt. at the DP and he told me not to worry about it and that if they dont want to hire a person its not going to be because of traffic violations.

[William]

I just talk to Lt. at the DP and he told me not to worry about it and that if they dont want to hire a person its not going to be because of traffic violations.

You are absolutely right. It's not going to be about the traffic violations.... it's going to be about lying about them.

[tnyblgn3]

You are absolutely right. It's not going to be about the traffic violations.... it's going to be about lying about them.

yeah was a stupid mistake, but just that, a mistake. have nothing to hide so ill just do better on the next app.
Thanks guys

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Mistakes are accidental; sounds like you went head to head with an integrity issue and lost.

Unfortunately for you, most agencies (at least the ones out here) ask which other LE agencies you've applied to in the past. They contact the other agency to find out what happened in the process and why you weren't selected.

You may have screwed the pooch on this one.

[Roger Dat]

Like the sarge said conscious decisions to leave or omit information is NOT a mistake.

[tnyblgn3]

Like the sarge said conscious decisions to leave or omit information is NOT a mistake.

well it was just that I was unsure about the info, what to include and what not to include, what constitutes as a traffic violation and what doesn’t i.e. convictions, dismissals, supervision, seatbelt tickets, excessive horn beeping. This may be easy for you guys because you are police men but I wasn’t sure about it. It was my first app and test I have ever done. I just can’t believe that that makes me look like a bad person or that could be a final determining factor if I would be a good police officer or not. Just got result back this morning for a another list I made Ill fill the app out perfectly and Ill let you guys know what happens ,other wise I’m not going to quite trying.

[DZL]

Did the application say to list all violations in the last "xx" months or years...?

If it only said to list the last 3 years, which is what most all apps I have filled out have asked, then I think you will be in the clear, assuming the ones you missed were beyond the 3 year mark...

Even then, when your BI starts they will see everything and you can give your explanation to the BI as to why you only listed the most recent violations... I really don't think you have anything to worry about here, unless you were trying to cover something up...

You live you learn is the old saying huh...?

Well I hate to tell you this, but chances are you are screwed... I received my letter in the mail yesterday that I was DQ'd because I didn't list a previous part time job, and a traffic violation on my application, but told the BI about during my BI interview...

Because of these ommissions, whether purposeful or not, I've been DQ'd from this department and cannot reaaply there for 3 years...

Pretty shitty reason to be DQ'd if you ask me, but it is what it is...

[GoDirectly2Jail]

I'll tell you what I told our polygraph examiner today as I was working through a stack of applicants. Discrepancies between the info on an application and what I find on a criminal or driving history is one of two things: intentional or accidental omission. If it's intentional, you are out.

If it is accidental, then I have to think to myself, if you are hired and respond to an incident and have to write a report about said incident, are you going to 'forget' pertinent facts in your report?

Any department is going to be hypercritical with their hiring, including scrutinizing every slip of info you provide, because they can afford to. For every applicant that submits an app that is incomplete or has misspelled words, there are two apps behind it that don't/aren't. In other words, the incompetence theory kicks in, and you are out.

[DZL]

And it's plainly obvious that bad applicants get hired as well. Just watch the news reports about the bad cops out there.

I'm certainly in the "sour grapes" mode at this point, but at the end of the day a very very small part of me is glad I didn't get this job, as the residency requirement was not appealing at all. That said it's a miniscule part of me that thinks this way.

Time to look for the next testing exam now.

[tnyblgn3]

I realize that, I moved on and am testing in other dept. cant give up on the first try. Just had other LEO's telling me that I messed up my chances for ever, or for any dept because they check all dept you previously applied to. After talking to some state troopers and hiring boards, that isn’t the case at all.