I found out last week that I was DQ'd for an interview and can't imagine why.
They won't give me any details other than "You can be qualified as early as next year because we only look 7 years back". 7 years ago my SSBI was being conducted for a TS clearance in the military. I received the clearance no problem. I just completed the 5 yr reinvestigation last year and nothing came up. I have an accident on my driving record, but that was 2 years ago...and a speeding ticket around 5 yrs ago. Other than that I'm an angel.
This is driving me nuts. Could they have mixed up files or something?
Has anyone disputed a DQ successfully.
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Not trying to be rude, but to be perfectly blunt, how would a group of anonymous people on the Internet know about a situation of someone they've never met? If you've been in contact with the USMS recruiter you had during the application process and they would not reveal any more information, that's probably the extent to what you'll find out. It sucks, I know (I failed the SA test with ICE a few years ago, and was never given any feedback on what part(s) I failed, just that I failed), but that's the name of the game.
I'd have a pretty hard time believing that they "mixed up" your appplication with someone else's, that's a bit far-fetched. If all they said was to reapply when you're outside a 7-year window, do as they advise.
Is there something that occurred 6-7 years ago that you thought maybe wasn't such a "big deal" but actually could be?
What agency as this with? I know most of the agencies around here pull from a lot of military, so they likely have the process down since there is a base very close by??????
What agency as this with? I know most of the agencies around here pull from a lot of military, so they likely have the process down since there is a base very close by??????
USMS is a federal agency. NOTE: USMS = UNITED STATES MARSHALS SERVICE.
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No problem ROS. I appreciate your bluntness.
I don't expect anonymous people on the internet to know specifically about my situation. I was just trying to find out if anyone here ever experienced anything like this. How can I get a TS/SCI clearance and fail a simple background check? I agree a mix up sounds far fetched. But there is NOTHING in my background other than the occasional speeding ticket.
The recruiters don't know why I failed. I had to call HR to get the info that I was DQ'd. HR said I would get a letter telling me why. It's just the waiting around is killing me.
No problem ROS. I appreciate your bluntness.
I don't expect anonymous people on the internet to know specifically about my situation. I was just trying to find out if anyone here ever experienced anything like this. How can I get a TS/SCI clearance and fail a simple background check? I agree a mix up sounds far fetched. But there is NOTHING in my background other than the occasional speeding ticket.
The recruiters don't know why I failed. I had to call HR to get the info that I was DQ'd. HR said I would get a letter telling me why. It's just the waiting around is killing me.
A federal LE background is NOT simple, easy, or quick, so you can throw that misconception out the window now. As to why 'X' likes you when 'Y' does not, who knows?
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Wow, rough crowd.
I'm not talking about the in depth investigation that comes after the interview. I was refering to the preliminary check before the interview. Sorry for asking a question about an apparently infallible system. I guess mistsakes are never made and I must be in the wrong.
Thanks guys.
Don't know about wrong, but you're apparently as sensitive as BIG's 4 year old.
Hi, welcome to Real Police. Not the Real Sensistivity Police. Not the Really Have a Good ear Police. Not the Hey Everyone Gets a Trophy Just for Playing the Game Police. But Real Police.
You asked the question as far as the background, not specifying it wwasn't actually the background you were questioning. Our members answered with the available information, that you provided or failed to provide.
If you want to sniffle, sulk & throw an internet hissy fit. BIG is sure there's a super sensitive, koom by ya site out there waiting to embrace you with open arms.
With that being said, if you're willing to wipe your tears & ask SPECIFICALLY about a particular part of the process, the couple of Deputy U.S. Marshals we have on board, may take time out of their schedules & perhaps assit you.
If you'd rather not, don't let the doorknob hit ya, where the good lord split ya.
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Originally Posted by neodguy
How can I get a TS/SCI clearance and fail a simple background check?
This is a common misconception, that a security BI is the same as a law enforcement suitability BI, when in fact they are not the same. The BI you underwent for your TS/SCI clearance was done to determine if you could be trusted with classified information. However, law enforcement officers/agents are given public trust to swear out warrants, arrest people (i.e. literally take away their freedom), and other activities based simply on their sworn words. The fact that you didn't pass this BI doesn't mean you're not a trustworthy person, as I would agree your TS clearance shows you likely are. However, LE agencies have certain standards that other military/gov't jobs that hold clearances do have, and it's because of the public trust given to our duties.
At the end of the day, this isn't the end of the world, as the USMS told you to reapply in a year. If you were disqualified indefinitely, they'd have told you, which would have been much worse. I know this news didn't come as good news, and I've been there before when I was trying to get a fed job, but the two things I learned about this application process are: (1) you have to have patience and learn to roll with the punches, and (2) if you fall off the horse, get back on (i.e. apply again when you're eligible).
FWIW, I had to apply to my current agency twice. It helped during the panel interview to show how much I actually wanted to work there. ;)
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