"No sale of any drugs" Need a little input here...

[jmwilso3]

I'm applying to this major department. One of the qualifications on their website is "No sale of any drugs". This might sound dumb, but I have one of those iffy situations that I honestly do not think should be a disqualifier.

About 3 years ago I had some unused vicodin pills from some dental work, and being young and stupid, I sold them to a friend. It was an isolated incident. And to be truthful, I've never even smoked weed once in my life, so being deemed a drug dealer seems a bit harsh to me.

I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this. I think we can all agree there are certain degrees of "Sales of any drugs". Some people have sold weed for years, I sold half a bottle of vicodin when I was 19. Anyone see my point?

[Citicop]

I'm applying to this major department. One of the qualifications on their website is "No sale of any drugs". This might sound dumb, but I have one of those iffy situations that I honestly do not think should be a disqualifier.

About 3 years ago I had some unused vicodin pills from some dental work, and being young and stupid, I sold them to a friend. It was an isolated incident. And to be truthful, I've never even smoked weed once in my life, so being deemed a drug dealer seems a bit harsh to me.

I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this. I think we can all agree there are certain degrees of "Sales of any drugs". Some people have sold weed for years, I sold half a bottle of vicodin when I was 19. Anyone see my point?

You committed a felony.

You sold drugs for money, period. The fact that it was a prescription drug makes no difference. Selling it all to one guy, or one pill each to twenty guys, it's all the same. There is no middle ground.

How many times must one sell drugs illegally before it should bar them from Law Enforcement in your esteemed opinion?

-Citicop.

[Kimble]

Some people have sold weed for years, I sold half a bottle of vicodin when I was 19. Anyone see my point?

No, I don't, because the people who sold weed for years don't get hired just the same as people who sold a half bottle of prescription narcotics. See my point?

[jmwilso3]

I regret even starting this thread, because after spending some time on this forum I am starting to see the attitudes of people on here.

So basically I am a felon, I am a criminal, I am a ****head and should never consider law enforcement as a career.

From what I have experienced from LEO's in real life, they are nothing like the people who make responses on this forum.

[phantasm]

I regret even starting this thread, because after spending some time on this forum I am starting to see the attitudes of people on here.

So basically I am a felon, I am a criminal, I am a ****head and should never consider law enforcement as a career.

From what I have experienced from LEO's in real life, they are nothing like the people who make responses on this forum.

Then why don't you go up to a cop in real life and not on the internet and ask him about your drug sale? It'd be a felony in NY too.

[jmwilso3]

Planned on it, mods feel free to end this thread at any time.

[Citicop]

I regret even starting this thread, because after spending some time on this forum I am starting to see the attitudes of people on here.

So basically I am a felon, I am a criminal, I am a ****head and should never consider law enforcement as a career.

From what I have experienced from LEO's in real life, they are nothing like the people who make responses on this forum.

Not meeting the qualifications to be a cop does not make you a scumbag.

This attitude, (there should be an exception for ME) is common in those who MADE DECISIONS and don't want to accept the consequences for them.

Selling drugs (even once) is a Felony.

Would you say that exceptions should be made for any of these situations?

I only sold crack one time.
I only broke into a house and stole a TV one time.
I only robbed one convenience store.
I only stole one car.
I only solicited sex from one minor online.

Apply if you want to, but I am not optimistic about your chances. Your decision will DQ you automatically in most departments I am aware of. Even with those who will accept your background, you will be facing a set of competition that does not have felony crimes in their pasts.

You ARE planning to be honest about your past, right?

-Citicop.

[Kimble]

So basically I am a felon, I am a criminal, I am a ****head and should never consider law enforcement as a career.

Are you a hardened career criminal? I don't know, but there's nothing in your original post to make me suspect you are. However, are you going to win a debate and convince me that selling a half bottle of prescription pills is "better" than selling marijuana multiple times? No. If you came here to get honest feedback, you will get it (and I believe you already did). If you came here for a shoulder to cry on and someone to say, "Don't worry" and B.S. you about your realistic chances of getting hired, this is not the right place.

[jmwilso3]

#1. Would I see a difference in stealing a car once or selling perscription pills once? Yes, I would. I happen to think that their are different degrees of moral behavoir, and in the big picture, my moral behavior is pretty good even with my teenage year mistake.

#2. Do I plan on being honest? Well I don't think I'd openly be asking this question on the internet if I was intending to hide it.

#3. I asked for input, not a shoulder to cry on, but thank you.

[Citicop]

#1. Would I see a difference in stealing a car once or selling perscription pills once? Yes, I would. I happen to think that their are different degrees of moral behavoir, and in the big picture, my moral behavior is pretty good even with my teenage year mistake.

#2. Do I plan on being honest? Well I don't think I'd openly be asking this question on the internet if I was intending to hide it.

#3. I asked for input, not a shoulder to cry on, but thank you.

Morality may be one thing, legality is another.

In Missouri, stealing a car is a Class C Felony. Selling drugs one time is a Class B Felony.

So, in my state, legally, what you did is WORSE than stealing a car.

I regret even starting this thread, because after spending some time on this forum I am starting to see the attitudes of people on here.

Translation-

Even though the title of the thread says "need a little input" what I meant was "Need someone to back me up on my opinion."

Sorry we didn't have the answer you liked. Maybe if you ask around long enough, someone will tell you what you want to hear (even if it's not true).

-Citicop.

[jmwilso3]

Needed a little input on this: "I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this". Which none of you have answered, so you can stop the non sense about me wanting someone to make me feel good.

[Kimble]

Needed a little input on this: "I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this". Which none of you have answered, so you can stop the non sense about me wanting someone to make me feel good.

If that's your attitude, you got no place in this line of work. Assist. Manager at Arby's is probably more your style. :rolleyes:

[Citicop]

Needed a little input on this: "I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this". Which none of you have answered, so you can stop the non sense about me wanting someone to make me feel good.

If the department's standards read:

"No sale of any drugs"

Then those are the standards.

1.) Was the substance "Any Drug?"
2.) Did you sell it?

If the answer to both questions is "yes" then you do not meet the standards.

If there was room to explain, it would say so (like minor marijuana use in some departments).

So, while you may be able to elaborate on it, I doubt the BI will overlook it for you, because it falls outside the standards.

Was that more clear?

-Citicop.

[SnapShawt]

A BI *might* allow you to elaborate on it, but probably won't. I wouldn't call you a "****head" because I don't know you. However, that incident will more than likely automatically DQ you. I don't say that judgmentally. My agency and any that I know of would not hire you, and I would say it would be rare to allow elaboration. Just trying to polite and to the point.

[deputywave]

I'm applying to this major department. One of the qualifications on their website is "No sale of any drugs". This might sound dumb, but I have one of those iffy situations that I honestly do not think should be a disqualifier.

About 3 years ago I had some unused vicodin pills from some dental work, and being young and stupid, I sold them to a friend. It was an isolated incident. And to be truthful, I've never even smoked weed once in my life, so being deemed a drug dealer seems a bit harsh to me.

I'm just curious on if the BI's will allow applicants to ellaborate on situations such as this. I think we can all agree there are certain degrees of "Sales of any drugs". Some people have sold weed for years, I sold half a bottle of vicodin when I was 19. Anyone see my point?

This is not an iffy situation. You sold drugs for money. That violates the "no sale of any drugs" qualifier. One time is all it takes. What does the fact that you have never smoked weed have to do with whether or not you have ever sold any drugs? Selling just once makes you a drug dealer. A BI might allow you to elaborate. It won't do you any good.

I don't believe that any of us agree to your "degrees of selling any drugs". You sold a controlled substance. Selling vicodin can get you more time than selling marijuana in many places. The fact that you are trying to minimize what you have done instead of taking responsibility says a lot about your character.


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