Have a chance, do i?

[jerryCT]

Hey guys,

I know these threads pop up from time to time and i will be assuming that senior membors would not take a second look at these threads, but i just want to shoot out my info to see if i have a chance to be on a police force.

The reasons i want to be on the force is that in HS, i always wanted to be an FBI, yet getting older, reality set in and life took its course. At 26, i am at a point in my life where i need to do something that is meaningful, yet pays well. My current job doesnt fit that need, even though it is a great job with security, espicually with this economic turmoil, i would love to stay at this job for the rest of my life. Granted the pay is ****ty and my NEW boss is trying to get me fired (or force me to quit).. I been with the company for nearly 2 years.. new boss with 3 months exp.. yea wont go there now.

So in my mid 20's heading to late 20's, one has to ask yourself... What should i do inorder to survive and leave a legacy that is meaningful? Then looking into my past, i see that i had a desire to be an FBI agent. Upon doing the research, i found that it was nearly impossible to be picked and the pay is 41k, let along relocation (if i were to be one, i would ask to be in New Haven, CT, since i use to live there... I remember talking to a few cops while in college, they told me that FBI is nothing but paperwork, grunt work). But the requirments are right up my alley; speak more than one language (english and Laos), college degree, and have some work exp (though not 3 years in a professional industry, but 1.75 is somewhat close.. not really... Might get a series 7 licence, which one officer told me that FBI needs professionals), on top of that i am an excelent martial artist/fighter (train with a few cops in the past and currently)!! So my dreams and desires may not be out the door for FBI. Yet inorder to become one, a person must do his/her duty for a city, policing and patroling.

Right now, Stamford is in a crunch. Much like any other city in CT, funding is an issue. Yet upon calling HR, i found out that they will have application process within the next month or so. So with taht, i am training very hard for this, studying and praying! But like those who are positive about the outcome, there are shadow of doubts.

When seeing a few cops drink at the local bar that is 20 feet from my house (and no i dont drink), i spoke with them. They said that the process is easy and asked if i smoke (no, once about 7 years old.. parents smoked, so why not? Never liked it and it was crap!), do drugs (no.. well, i did try 'weed' in 6th grade.. by try i mean a not lite weed, worst thing ever), fucked an animal (no.. hell no... not sure if this was an FBI question or police), and self mutaliation (no.. well, if you consider punishing myself when i cant perform a move right or get thigns wrong). So all and all, it may seem that i do fit the bill perfect! But all of those are nothing more of what i have or have not done, what about backround?

1 speeding ticket (upstate new york... A few months ago, didnt pay, will this affect?), couple of pulled over volations, red light ran, unlicence veachle driving, and juv stealing (long story, but the people at the time told me that it will be wiped out of my record). With all of these, will they have an affect on the process? Also, if you google my name, i posted something on the internet of the breakdown i was going through, it affected my mentality and judgemnt, AKA being dumped. I posted on a depression website which i needed relief (sucided if you wanted to know), but since then i am 100% healthy and love life! So will this have an affect? I will easily explain myself if i get to the interview proess. I learned that anything on the internet can have an affect on everything, so no more social sites. Also my credit score is bad, have to start paying for my student loans, yet my current pay isnt all that well and cant even get a reconsilidation of loans, will this also affect the hiring process?

Currently i am studing like a wild animal. I just brought a book on the MMNI-II personality test, so i can read up on it and study for waht is needed. I am also training (also train with a bunch of Stamford PD, which is a huge plus) like a wild animal; weights, cardio, BJJ, MMA, and meditation. All i need to do is prep on my poly test, but i cant afford that thing or know where to get tested. Even as i am doing this, do i have a chance? Will my past come and hurt me? That is what i am worried about, which is why i am writing here. Will the past hurt, even though i am trying to ammend for my mistakes? If i do make it, thats a big IF, what percentage/chance of getting to be a FBI agent (if any).


Thank you for reading this post. I ddint do well in the writing department of my education, but i am ever so improving. My IQ ranges from 125-145 on any givin day, but IQ means nothing if i fail or try to get my point or questions across.

Tank you for your time,

Jerry S
From Stamford CT

[jerryCT]

Also, i have subscribed to policequiz.com, and steadily improving my score everytime i take the exam. I know where my faults are and those faults are now going away. I went from low 70% to mid 80's (%). I am confident on passing the writen portion of the exam. I will hopefully get to 90+ within the next month.

Thank you,
Jerry S
Stamford, CT

[Johninaustin]

Since there is a now a warrant for your arrest. (the unpaid ticket) and your license is suspended, (the ticket again) I'd say your chances are just about zero.

[jerryCT]

As for the unpaid ticket, they would have contacted me, since lost it (the ticket with returning envolope) and cant find it to pay it (ill ask my roomate who works for NYPD and this incident was about 6 months ago). I never had licence suspended, rather the car was unregistared (3 years ago). If my licence was suspended, then how i was i able to renew my licence (2 months ago)? So the unpaid ticket might be an issue, even though they did not put a price tag on it; its the type of ticket saying that i was speeding with no sign of price to pay. And i have paid all my infactions, all up until the update NY one.

Warrent? That is new to me.

[Switchback]

Actually, it's warrAnt. Apparently it IS new to you. They often issue those for people who do not respond well to more subtle hints (infractions, citations, etc.).


I am with John...
Have a chance, you do not.
(...and Yoda, you are not)



I will give you props for one of the cheesiest thread titles in a while.

[jerryCT]

Aww understood. I will try to get that ammended if possible. As for the title, yea, ddint feel like pressing the delete button, heh.

[dkl1986]

Aww understood. I will try to get that ammended if possible. As for the title, yea, ddint feel like pressing the delete button, heh.

your title, i like. long, your post is. experience, you seem to have. fear, anger aggression... i fear in you. pay your fines, you must. apply to the fbi, you should. say no, is all they can do. to lose, you have nothing.

to you, good luck i wish. ;)

[Ispbear]

your title, i like. long, your post is. experience, you seem to have. fear, anger aggression... i fear in you. pay your fines, you must. apply to the fbi, you should. say no, is all they can do. to lose, you have nothing.

to you, good luck i wish. ;)

LMAO, +1 to you DKL

Sorry JerryCT, but my 8 year old can write with better sentence structure than you did. You can't expect anyone to take you seriously in life if you come off like Yoda.

[smcc360]

My current job... is a great job with security, espicually with this economic turmoil, i would love to stay at this job for the rest of my life. Granted the pay is ****ty and my NEW boss is trying to get me fired (or force me to quit).. I been with the company for nearly 2 years.. new boss with 3 months exp.. yea wont go there now.

If that's your idea of a great job, you might just be cut out for law enforcement. At least you're not a crybaby.

[I] speak more than one language (english and Laos)...

This might make you a better fit with DEA, actually.

...i am an excelent martial artist/fighter (train with a few cops in the past and currently)!!

This will have no bearing in the application process, except to the extent that it might help you pass a PT test.

Right now, Stamford is in a crunch. Much like any other city in CT, funding is an issue. Yet upon calling HR, i found out that they will have application process within the next month or so. So with taht, i am training very hard for this, studying and praying! But like those who are positive about the outcome, there are shadow of doubts.

I will admit, I see a few shadows. But let's read on...

... well, i did try 'weed' in 6th grade.. by try i mean a not lite weed, worst thing ever)...

There's lite weed now? 'Cause I worry about carbs. But experimental use that long ago shouldn't be a problem.

...fucked an animal (no.. hell no... not sure if this was an FBI question or police), and self mutaliation (no.. well, if you consider punishing myself when i cant perform a move right or get thigns wrong). So all and all, it may seem that i do fit the bill perfect!

Yes, refraining from screwing livestock and cutting yourself is a good lifestyle choice.

1 speeding ticket (upstate new york... A few months ago, didnt pay, will this affect?)

It will, and fairly badly. To share a trade secret with you, cops drive a lot.

...couple of pulled over volations, red light ran, unlicence veachle driving, and juv stealing (long story, but the people at the time told me that it will be wiped out of my record). With all of these, will they have an affect on the process?

[quote=jerryCT;978860]Yes, they will. We're reaching the point at which I'd be putting your file in the 'see what our lousy salary has done to the quality of our applicant pool' pile, but all hope is not yet lost...

Also, if you google my name, i posted something on the internet of the breakdown i was going through, it affected my mentality and judgemnt, AKA being dumped. I posted on a depression website which i needed relief (sucided if you wanted to know), but since then i am 100% healthy and love life! So will this have an affect?

It will. To give you another peek behind the curtain, cops experience a good deal of stress on the job.

Also my credit score is bad, have to start paying for my student loans, yet my current pay isnt all that well and cant even get a reconsilidation of loans, will this also affect the hiring process?

It will. It also leads me to again question your description of it as a 'great job'.

I just brought a book on the MMNI-II personality test, so i can read up on it and study for waht is needed.

A wise move, though you may wish to bone up on the MMPI-2 (the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory), since this is the assessment tool most PDs use, as opposed to MMNI (Integrated MisMatch Negativity), which quantifies cortical activity in response to auditory stimuli. If this was simply a typo on your part, please disregard.

I am also training... weights,

Good, but concentrate on cardio. Running, specifically.

...cardio,

Good.

...BJJ,

If this is what I think it is, stop doing it (it's a mortal sin). Although it may help with promotion tests down the road.

...MMA,

Not bad, due to the aerobic component, but concentrate on cardio. Nobody at the PT test (or at the academy, for that matter) will give a **** how you fight. Concentrate on pushups, situps, and running. If you want to get fancy, do some pullups. After your run.

...and meditation.

This is time better spent running. Or paying speeding tickets.

...do i have a chance? Will my past come and hurt me? That is what i am worried about, which is why i am writing here. Will the past hurt, even though i am trying to ammend for my mistakes?

There are things in your background which will hurt your chances, yes. And the FBI is very selective; they can afford to be. The driving record and the suicidal ideations are the big ones, followed closely by the credit problems.

What you must do is mitigate the negatives, and build upon the positive. Pay your bills. Clear up that warrant. Demonstrate in concrete terms how you've moved on from that bad breakup, and how you've learned to handle stress better. Stuff like that.

And if you're serious about the FBI, take some writing classes. Communicating in writing is a huge part of what they do, far more so than kung-fu fighting. And don't come back with some crap about how 'it's just the Internet, man'. Being able to string two sentences together has to become something you can do without a second thought, not something you only switch on when you decide it really matters.

My IQ ranges from 125-145 on any givin day...

What is it based on? Phases of the moon? ;)

Tank you for your time,

Jerry S
From Stamford CT

Good luck.

[jerryCT]

Heh, so why is everyone JUSt hounding on the title? Most posts are commenting on that. Reguardless of the title, much thanx for your opinions.

Since finding out about the warrent, i am doing everything in my power to see it finalized. In the morning, i am going to call up the county (Franklin County) which i got the ticket, get the ticket number and see if i can just pay the fines, if not, ill just take a few days off and go to court.. 7 hour drive to upstate NY, which may be a problem, but i have vacation days, so no complaints. I will also get a transcript of my driving record on friday morning (DMV isnt open on thursday in stamford) and then show it to a few training partners (police officer), of what can be a problem or not (besides the lone speeding ticket). I will also call human resources to find out if my chances are slim.


Also, i found out that in CT, if you are convicted of "felony or Class A or B misdemeanor conviction is an automatic disqualifier in the State of Connecticut," not sure if i qualify with teh unpaid ticket, but i will check. Not only that, when i talked to an NYPD recruiter, he told that its better to get things cleared up, which looks better than saying 'i lost the ticket, therefore i did not pay it.'

I am getting as many opinions as i can, knowing a few people on the force that i want to join is a good thing, to find out info of rather or not if i qualify.

Heh, not kung fu, not that. During my years of training, i 'choked' out a few cops, , not to get ahead of myself, cops also did teh same to me. Theres a gratifying feeling to spar with a cop, the whole 'mystic' that they possess in the general public's eyes. And its a better feeling to beat a cop during training. Not a good thing if that cop has 20+ lbs on you, which can be a bad thing...

heh, and yes it was a typo. Ment to type MMPI-2. There are a few books on half.com on this subject. So i brought the book that is merely a few years old at the same time saved me a ton of change! If all fails, i can give this book out to a few training partners who are also serious about becoming a cop, that may fair better than me at this point.

By what i mean a 'great job,' is; security (long term work), pay (being an officer today almost doubles my current salary.. this includes overtime and holiday pay), having a meaningful job that i can brag about (this is big one, i hear cops all the time who love their job.. its taht or stamford has a great PD, which it does!) and many chances to advance in education, career and networking if i ever decide to get a second career going (some of the officers that i know have side jobs, such as contruction). Also being a police officer has the chance to advance on their education, which is always a plus! So being a police is a dream job. But mostly to have an impact on the Stamford community, which is one of the biggest reasons why i want to join.

[dkl1986]

Heh, so why is everyone JUSt hounding on the title? Most posts are commenting on that. Reguardless of the title, much thanx for your opinions.

We're just breakin' your balls. Fuhget 'bout it! ;) It's a nice change of pace from the usual "Am I gonna die in the background!?!?!?"

[deputywave]

Since finding out about the warrent

It's WARRANT!!




I thought maybe you missed that the first time it was mentioned.:D

Miss that on the written exam and watch them laugh and dance about as they round file your app.:D:D

[jerryCT]

Heh, i highly doubt ill miss that, this doesnt have spell check, so yea .

As for the 'warrent,' i mean warrant, i found out (recently) that my case has yet to go up that far. Meaning my licence is not suspended and if i act ASAP, i can pay the fine and it will not hurt me in the long run. Since the DMV does not handle my case at the moment, it is up to the small court is holding my ticket. Talking to my roomate, he confirmed this; 'Get this taken care of and everything will be alright, prolonging this, will make any chances slim.' So right now, all i can do is call the small court which is where the ticket is housed. Yet these small courts are opened on certain days and certain times. Because of this, i will be limited on what to do until next week... Which is ahuge problem for me, i want to get this resolved ASAP, before i blow my money on food :D (pet peeve.. eating is such sweet sorrow). So i will fax their PD, which is also a court.... for some odd reason.

ON that note, i told the person from the DMV that i will also try to be a police officer for the NYPD (cant put all my eggs in one basket, must see where i can get a job), she gave me some sound advice saying 'dont get another ticket in NY.' This ticket i got a few months ago, is worth 4 points. 2 more points and i am screwed, then they would hunt me down.. i.e. warrant and licence suspended, and of course, would contact CT's DMV about this resolve.

EVerything looks on teh up up now, problem one down. . Now i wonder how it feels to go on patrol with a few police man? Do cops allow civilians to accompany them while on patrol? I remembered a few cops from BPT, Ct offered to show me around, but taht was like 3-4 years ago, not sure if cops are allowed now, for safty reasons.

[noelchabanel]

Some departments allow ordinary citizens to ride along with an officer, some don't. Just ask. I've done it before, and I have to say, it was one of the best ideas I've ever had. I'd happily do the job for free if it came to it :D. That said, they are probably not going to let someone who currently has a warrant out for his arrest do it though....

[mobrien316]

My opinion, as a current police officer in Connecticut, is that you have no chance.

The unpaid ticket or tickets alone are probably enough to sink you, especially since that probably means that, at the least, your driving priviledge in New York is now suspended and, at worse, there is a warrant for your arrest in New York for failure to pay or plea. Add in the suicide threat (on the internet, no less) and I would be surprised if any department would hire you.