TS Clearances...

[Beedub]

So for my second thread on this forum, I have a question. I have an active Top Secret clearance (Yankee White classification).

Will this count for anything in my journey to become an LEO? Took a long time to get that.. SSBI's are no joke.

[Switchback]

Not really. Most locals don't get clearances. If you go fed, they willjust do an update.

[1depd]

It depends. You have a TS handle classified information and be around the Pres. If you get into Federal LE they will want to redo it and adjudicate you for LE not necessarily classified information.

[Beedub]

Hm. So on a municiple level it wouldn't even score some brownie points, seeing as how the background check portion of the process is (nearly) sure to go through smoothly?

[Piggy]

A TS clearance will not be counted for any local law enforcement. The only exception is if your clearance is still active, and while you are on a local PD you decide to get onto a local terrorism task force that is affiliated with the Feds.

On the other hand if you have a TS clearance and get hired by a Federal Agency, your clearance will be accepted. Keep in mind you have to be reinvestigated every five years anyway but it's still something you want to note on your resume. (Especially if you just went through a reinvestigation). A TS clearance is very expensive so the fact you can hold one is a positive thing on a resume compared to other applicants who may be more qualified, but then you have to worry about the other applicants making it through the BI.

There are other private sector employers who recruit personnel with clearances. I think there's even a website out there somewhere.

As to the Yankee White, you can still note it on the resume but most employers probably won't know what it is unless they were into the clearance process themselves. It's still the same background investigation as a TS clearance but noteworthy anyway.

Another thing to consider, if you do decide to go federal your active duty time can be bought out toward your retirement. You would also have veterans preference. So if you have five years of active duty for example, at least it would count toward something if you decided to go for a federal civilian job.

Hope this helps.

[Beedub]

A TS clearance will not be counted for any local law enforcement. The only exception is if your clearance is still active, and while you are on a local PD you decide to get onto a local terrorism task force that is affiliated with the Feds.

On the other hand if you have a TS clearance and get hired by a Federal Agency, your clearance will be accepted. Keep in mind you have to be reinvestigated every five years anyway but it's still something you want to note on your resume. (Especially if you just went through a reinvestigation). A TS clearance is very expensive so the fact you can hold one is a positive thing on a resume compared to other applicants who may be more qualified, but then you have to worry about the other applicants making it through the BI.

There are other private sector employers who recruit personnel with clearances. I think there's even a website out there somewhere.

As to the Yankee White, you can still note it on the resume but most employers probably won't know what it is unless they were into the clearance process themselves. It's still the same background investigation as a TS clearance but noteworthy anyway.

Another thing to consider, if you do decide to go federal your active duty time can be bought out toward your retirement. You would also have veterans preference. So if you have five years of active duty for example, at least it would count toward something if you decided to go for a federal civilian job.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, it sure does.. gives me a couple new questions, though, lol.

When I leave active service in 8 months, my clearance will still be active, as I've only held it for about 2 years now. Now, from what I've seen, none of the federal jobs will hire without a college degree, even if I will have done 5 years in the military. Would it a decent plan to become part of a local PD, work on getting a degree (through the new MGI Bill) and then maybe moving on to the federal level? I don't know if I would be looked on favorably if they knew I was just using the PD as a stepping stone. And I don't want to come off that way, either, seeing as how I know next to nothing about being a cop, I may well end up not wanting to go higher than the city level... /musing

Like you said though, I suppose it never hurts to list the TS/YW on any type of resume.

[Joeyd6]

Thanks, it sure does.. gives me a couple new questions, though, lol.

When I leave active service in 8 months, my clearance will still be active, as I've only held it for about 2 years now. Now, from what I've seen, none of the federal jobs will hire without a college degree, even if I will have done 5 years in the military. Would it a decent plan to become part of a local PD, work on getting a degree (through the new MGI Bill) and then maybe moving on to the federal level? I don't know if I would be looked on favorably if they knew I was just using the PD as a stepping stone. And I don't want to come off that way, either, seeing as how I know next to nothing about being a cop, I may well end up not wanting to go higher than the city level... /musing

Like you said though, I suppose it never hurts to list the TS/YW on any type of resume.

Security clearances are not a blanket clearance for x number of years. It is granted by the government to a speciifc individual while under their tenure in a specific position. So when you leave the position, your clearance goes too. It can be transferred if you move to another agency/new position, but when exit stage right, your leaving the clearance. You don't still get to say I am out after three years and get to carry it for 2 more.

What branch you with? MOS? Duty locale?

[Piggy]

Joey beat me to it.

Here's the link I was trying to find, easy enough to remember:

http://www.clearancejobs (dot com)

[Beedub]

Actually, as far as I know, clearances are considered active for the 5 years, even if I do leave the military before those 5 years expire. Sure, they won't let me back onto the facility I work at as a civilian, but my record will still show an active TS/YW completed. The SSBI is used for way more than just our clearances, and it all still deals with the (in)famous SF-86. And even so, technically even when I leave active duty after my 5 years, I've still got 3 more years of IRR (inactive ready reserve), so I'll still be in the military, but it's a cold chance in hell of being recalled.

I'm already registered on clearancejobs, however, perusing the things over there, it's quite clear that the applicants they are looking for need to have a 4 year degree on top of things, and many are geared towards older, more experienced people.

I'm in the USMC, MOS 6072 (Aviation Ground Support Equipment Mechanic - Hydraulic, Pnuematic, Structural) Basically I'm a glorified grease monkey. But the billet I hold here in HMX-1 is a high visibility duty, in the heart of DC. More info than that I cannot give.

Before anyone asks, no, I've never been to Iraq, and yes, it does bother me. Before HMX-1 I was stationed with MALS-14 in Cherry Point NC, and I was on the list and prepping to go on the next MEU, but they yanked me and gave me order to Quantico, and HMX-1, which just so happens is a non deployable squadron. I've been a lot of places, but not to the war.

[Norm357]

Nothing to add except...

Cherry Point NC

I was born on Cherry Point NAS. :D

[retdetsgt]

Nothing to add except...



I was born on Cherry Point NAS. :D

And someday a statue will be erected on that spot....

:D

[ngcsubutterbar]

My dad's clearance went bye bye when he retired, and his last duty station was the underground Pentagon at Raven Rock.



Although it could have had something to do with him moving out of the country to.

[Norm357]

And someday a statue will be erected on that spot....

:D

Indeed. ;)

[Beedub]

Nothing to add except...



I was born on Cherry Point NAS. :D

It's a very nice base, although I won't comment on the surrounding area ;)

My dad's clearance went bye bye when he retired, and his last duty station was the underground Pentagon at Raven Rock.



Although it could have had something to do with him moving out of the country to.

Hmm. I'm assuming that was some time ago, as well. Maybe things have changed, becaues it's pretty common practice (at least for the guys I've known and talked to) to use the clearance to get a pretty good job.

The problem is, I'm not terribly interested in doing what I'm doing now all my life, hence me getting out after only 5, and also wanting to be a cop someday. I'm fairly confident in my ability to become an LEO.. what's more pressing on my mind right now is finding a job to support myself while I go through the hiring process.

[ngcsubutterbar]

he got out in 2000/2001 time frame