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    Hopefully not redundant...but seeking advice.

    Hello and thanks for responding to this appropriately. I'm 28 years old and thinking about getting into LE. I've got a clean history (never done alcohol or drugs, even once "experimentally").

    My first issue (occurred over a period of 5-6 years ago) is that I've stolen from one employer, probably about $1,000 worth of "demo" and non-demo product.

    Secondly, I was party (ignorantly, though ignorance is no defense) to a less-than-honest account setup that basically changed the party given credit for a signup. Each signup brought about $70. Many were changed and I profited about $1300. I now work for this employer (incident occurred and was resolved 3 years ago) and have worked this out with them.

    I regret very much my misdeeds and hope to someday right the wrongs I have done.

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    1- Should I even try for a LE job?
    2- If I should at least try, do my own feelings (regrets, remorse, and remembrance of my sinful ways) affect polygraphs and will I have the chance to explain and show my repentance, if you will?
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    Were you caught for the $1000 in equipment taken from the previous employer? Have you contacted them with an offer of restitution?
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    I was not caught and have not contacted them concerning the product (about 50+/- $20 products). I have occasionally mailed cash to their corporate office totaling $120, thus far.
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    "1- Should I even try for a LE job?"
    "2- If I should at least try, do my own feelings (regrets, remorse, and remembrance of my sinful ways) affect polygraphs and will I have the chance to explain and show my repentance, if you will?"

    StoneDragon,

    You have committed crimes of moral turpitude meaning lying, cheating or stealing. These will be very difficult to overcome even though you were not charged criminally.

    Will your feelings of regret, remorse etc affect polygraphs, yes they will. What bothers me about your question leads me to believe you were thinking of not revealing these events from your past. Not smart! If there is even a glimmer of hope for your application process you must be completely honest. Any form of dishonesty is an automatic disqualifier with most if not all agencies. Expressing regret after the polygraph process is too late all of the explanations in the world will not help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valycop View Post
    What bothers me about your question leads me to believe you were thinking of not revealing these events from your past. Not smart! If there is even a glimmer of hope for your application process you must be completely honest. Any form of dishonesty is an automatic disqualifier with most if not all agencies. Expressing regret after the polygraph process is too late all of the explanations in the world will not help.
    I won't hide anything, I want to be upfront about these two smears on an otherwise honest life. I have no problem with talking to the hiring body about, but I want a chance. I can't undo what I've done, but I can, everyday, show that that does not reflect me or who I am today. In your experience would any Agency: Federal, State, or Local, provide someone who's done what I've done, that opportunity?

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    You're coming through loud and clear. I'll give it a shot, but won't hope for much. Thanks for the info.

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    Last night I returned every item I had taken and also $50 cash. It's not a lot, but it's all I can do now.

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    You committed some serious theft as well as fraud combined with it. Each incident would be a Class A misdemeanor here in Texas. Combined, you have stolen enough in your lifetime to rise to felonious activity, which is how a BI would most likely view it.

    I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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