Moral Turpitude (Escort Service aka Prostitution)

[bjj_cop_maybe]

I have finally come for an opinion from this boards respectable members of law enforcement. I am in the application process with a couple of agencies and of course filled out pre-investigative questionnaires. I accept full responsibility for my actions in the past and do not expect any type of sugar coating there is.

A very embarrassing subject for me to talk about so I figure I would try my luck here. In november of 2006 I had contacted escorts from craigslist. I will not be the naive one and say escorts, I will say I participated in the act of prostitution. I had stated that I had done this on 6 occasions. I was 22 at the time I am now 24. Yes we make dumb mistakes, and embarrassing ones. I am wondering how much of a disqualifying factor this is going to be for me and also if I should maybe wait more time before going through with the process to show my rate of maturity to stay out of any type of criminal activity. I'm not going to sit here and say I will never do it again and I'm a changed person because I know actions speak louder than words and I am willing to prove it with time and other aspects in being a positive role model for my community. I won't go into my life story of positives, I've posted on here before, I am not crying for anything, I've done my stupid things and take responsibility for it. Expert opinions please help, because this is definitely eating me up inside. Thank you for all the responses going forward.

[GiREDS]

I would have to say that 2 years since the last offense may not be enough time in the Background Investigator's eyes. You were absolutely correct when you titled the thread "Moral Turpitude." In California an applicant must meet the conditions set forth in the Government Code that they are of good moral character that is determined by doing a background investigation.

Another issue that you did not address is why you stopped this behavior. Was it because you got caught in a sting? Got a girlfriend? Realized that what you were doing was against the law? These are questions that your Background Investigator will hit you with to gauge whether or not you truly have taken responsibility for your actions.

[bjj_cop_maybe]

I stopped because yes, I realized even though the wording tries to cover up the actual act, it is against the law. I was never caught, I was single during the time I had done it. I guess when you try to use wording to cover up the actual act it makes it seem ok, I never picked one up from the street, but that doesnt make a difference, the act was done.

[Creeker]

Well, if nothing else, now we all know at least what the "B" and the "J" in your name implies... :rolleyes:

[bjj_cop_maybe]

Well, if nothing else, now we all know at least what the "B" and the "J" in your name implies... :rolleyes:

Thank you for the humor , keeps me going at night. Actually stands for brazilian jiu jitsu, been doing it for about 6 years now.

[DeltaV]

You would have no chance of being hired at my department, as that's an automatic disqualifier.

[Samuel]

I stopped because yes, I realized even though the wording tries to cover up the actual act, it is against the law.... ....I guess when you try to use wording to cover up the actual act it makes it seem ok, I never picked one up from the street, but that doesnt make a difference, the act was done.

Really?! What "wording" are YOU using to try to make yourself feel better? :confused: Seems pretty darn clear here:

(excerpted)
647. Every person who commits any of the following acts is guilty
of disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor:
(b) Who solicits or who agrees to engage in or who engages in any
act of prostitution. A person agrees to engage in an act of
prostitution when, with specific intent to so engage, he or she
manifests an acceptance of an offer or solicitation to so engage,
regardless of whether the offer or solicitation was made by a person
who also possessed the specific intent to engage in prostitution. No
agreement to engage in an act of prostitution shall constitute a
violation of this subdivision unless some act, in addition to the
agreement, is done within this state in furtherance of the commission
of an act of prostitution by the person agreeing to engage in that
act. As used in this subdivision, "prostitution" includes any lewd
act between persons for money or other consideration.

[bjj_cop_maybe]

I didnt say I was using wording to make myself feel better, I cannot express how much remorse I have for what I have done. I am saying the wording of calling a prostitute an "escort" instead of the real act which is prostitution. What I am asking is mainly the issue at hand with regards to a background investigation and the disqualifying factor this may cause me.

[Norm357]

We all pay for nookie.

*Shakes head*

We all pay.

*Walks away*

[Samuel]

IMO, your chances are between Slim and None and Slim is about to leave town. I'd say that Slim already left town but you never know... Remember that you'll be compared to candidates without your blemishes...

[bjj_cop_maybe]

I understand Samuel. Thank you for your input.

[SnapShawt]

Zero chance. Find another career.

I don't mean that to sound like a judgment on you, as such things are best left to a being much higher than any of us. Just short and to the point.

[WellAdvised]

We all pay for nookie.

*Shakes head*

We all pay.

*Walks away*

As the Ry Cooder song says "The very thing that makes her rich, will make you poor".

[Creeker]

As the Ry Cooder song says "The very thing that makes her rich, will make you poor".

LOL at "Cooder"... :D

Around these parts that used to be an acronym for "Poontang"... as well as a big turtle... :confused:... don't ask me why, I'm just sayin'...

[Darin]

I think you're screwed (yeah bad pun intended). Maybe 1 incident 5+ years ago...maybe. But not the 6 times 2 years ago and this part

I'm not going to sit here and say I will never do it again

is probably the biggest reason that it'll be a no go.