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    Hey guys thanks for taking the time to read my post on here. This is the scenario. in 1998 at age 17 i was arrested for theft (felony) and in 1999 it was reduced to class a misdeameanor simple theft with court supervision, and restitution. All paid and served i had the case expunged in late 2005. Well to begin with i realized i did wrong and immediatly when i was called into the security office explained everything and admitted it all no prodding no poking no promises i just wanted to get it over with. Well i finished high school that year and then decided with all the positive police officers i had dealt with thats what i wanted to do help children realize that you can turn your life around.(not only that but for all of you that always wanted to be a leo and when you heard sirens or seen a police car fly by with its lights on and imagined yourself driving or got those chills down your neck ok enough of that but you know what i mean) I then went to a local community college in 2000 finished in the top 10 of my class with a b average and graduated in 2002 with an aas in criminal justice. Well by then the departments wanted a bachelors so i had to work and work to get the money for college and finally in 2005 went to a university and got my ba in law enforcement in late 2007. Only negatives ive had are ive had 2 warrants for the case which was a sewer bill that my old landlord was supposed to paid and i was away at school about 4 hours away so i had no clue. Well they didnt see it that way and issued warrants so both times i turned myself in when i came home on christmas break and spring break. My question is since its been about 9 years since my theft case and i have tried to better my life and prove that i am leo material would the sewer warrants automatically dq me. Id appriciate all the input positive or negative.

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    I have no idea what a sewer warrant is, but if you turned in an application to me written like that, I'd toss it in the trash w/o reading it. Do you write your college papers like that? :rolleyes: If you expect to be treated like an adult, write like one. People judge your maturity on your ability to communicate in written form.

    If the theft was expunged, you can probably get hired. But like I said, I have no idea what a sewer warrant is. Were you arrested and jailed for it? Was it for nonpayment of a sewer bill?
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    Yes non payment of a sewer bill. I was booked and then released. It's late and dark don't nitpick my edumacation.

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    Re: the "sewer warrants"

    You'd think after the first one you might have expected to pay the second one.... :confused: ... whatever they are...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lavvman911 View Post
    Yes non payment of a sewer bill. I was booked and then released. It's late and dark don't nitpick my edumacation.
    or LACK of one... or maybe he's just STOOPID/IGNANT... :rolleyes:

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    Lavvman911 or " Lawman911 " has been encouraged to find a new user name.

    Your app will still need to reflect that you were arrested for a felony and that you have had 2 warrants ( ie , been charged with 2 offenses relating to non-payment) for what sounds like a municipal code violation.

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    Sounds like debtors prison.... Arresting people for non payment of a fine is one thing, but non payment of a bill? That sounds archaic to me. If VISA could do that then the prison population would really skyrocket!:confused:
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Hey there

    I have heard of liens being placed on properties for non-payment of a sewer bills but a warrant sounds far fetched. I applaud you for finishing school. In Las Vegas you would not be taken into custody for something like that. You should consider moving. LOL What is this world coming to when you get jail time for failure to pay your sewage bill. You got my vote for being recruited. Good luck

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    I've never heard of a criminal charge (warrant) for an unpaid sewer bill. Could we be talking a collections service and civil process? :confused:
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    Maybe you received a subpoena to appear in court in regards to the civil matter but I cant see a warrant. Nor can I see a police department wasting its time to try and track one down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas8921 View Post
    I have heard of liens being placed on properties for non-payment of a sewer bills but a warrant sounds far fetched. I applaud you for finishing school. In Las Vegas you would not be taken into custody for something like that. You should consider moving. LOL What is this world coming to when you get jail time for failure to pay your sewage bill. You got my vote for being recruited. Good luck
    Considering the situation enumerated in this thread:

    http://forums.realpolice.net/showthread.php?t=81825

    ... vegas8921 might not be the person to go to for law enforcement recruiting advice.
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    Its true

    Sorry im in no way trying to imply that im an leo and i will be changing my name after this post.

    Secondly yes it was indeed a warrant. A warrant was issued and i was booked had to post a bond and then released. It was unheard of to everyone I had spoken with also at the university. It happened twice because after i turned myself in the first time I called the old landlord and explained to them they failed to pay this bill and they assured me that they would pay it as it was included in my rent. Well when i came home i was sceduled to do my internship with the city police and i was refused due to an active warrant so i then turned myself in and posted another bond and was released and apparently both bonds were sufficient to cover the sewer bill because they said it was fulfilled.

    As i can take the critisim just like the next guy but everytime i read a thread of people on these forums asking a question there always has to be some smart-*** comment to that person just wanting advice. I've came a long way from what i was and for one am proud of what i have accomplished, not all of us are so lucky to be as perfect as these top cops, but your job should include a little compassion for someone wanting to go into the same field as you. One of the reasons i decided to even put myself through the number of denials i will get is because the police officers i encountered throughout my long journey have given many encouraging words as well as real life hurdles i will encounter and for some of you people to blatently discourage people with your words disgusts me. We aren't all drug users and repeat violators of the law MOST of us are good people just looking for some advice, probably be to much to ask that you think about that before you let your online/alter ego get the best of your text statements.

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    NOBODY on here is perfect but remember its not only who you are NOW thats considered when you try to get hired its also who you were and what you have done. The past is used to help a department anticipate the future. Is it always accurate? Of course not but its what we have to work with so before you go trashing verified officers on here for being blunt an honest take a look in the mirror. Regardless of how you are now you committed a FELONY yes thats right folks a FELONY.

    If you dont like the advice give on this forum take your toys and go home. We arent here to sugar coat things and tell you what you want to hear so you can get all warm and fuzzy and feel great about your chances of being hired. If you want that then ask your mom for advice and how good you fare at getting an LEO job.

    PS. If you dont think your mistakes arent going to count against you when your applying to a department where all things considered you are equal with the other candidates how many of them were never arrested? and for a felony non the less. Not to mention we look at these post from everyone on here and ask ourselves one question. Do I want this guy backing me up or any one of my brothers or sisters? And the answer is I want the best and most qualified person to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lavvman911 View Post
    ...Secondly yes it was indeed a warrant. A warrant was issued and i was booked had to post a bond and then released. It was unheard of to everyone I had spoken with also at the university. It happened twice because after i turned myself in the first time I called the old landlord and explained to them they failed to pay this bill and they assured me that they would pay it as it was included in my rent. Well when i came home i was sceduled to do my internship with the city police and i was refused due to an active warrant so i then turned myself in and posted another bond and was released and apparently both bonds were sufficient to cover the sewer bill because they said it was fulfilled.

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    OK, to start with, Bond or fines are not any civil remedy. "Bond" is the $ paid to the Court to allow you to remain free pending trial. A "Fine" is what is paid to the Court as a penalty for being convicted. Many times your "Bond" can become your "Fine" if you fail to appear for court and you are convicted in your absence.

    In no way does a "Bond" or "Fine" become backpayment to the Sewer company. It is a seperate issue. Bonds with fines and jail is Criminal Court. Non-payment of Sewer is strictly a Civil Process unless they signed warrants against you... which it sounds as if they did... but you apparently still owe them their payments, which you should find out.

    If the Sewer co. could sign a warrant and collect their payment out of your Bond/Fine, it seems to me that would be Extortion.

    You should have gone to court, brung your former Landlord and explained the situation to the Judge.

    I'm a bit surprised during all of your degreeing that you would be confused about that.

    As for your "I only want the Peaches & Cream, not reality" rant, save your drama for your Mama. what you have gotten here is nothing, repeat NOTHING, like you will get in your first week at any LEO Academy... much less on the street.
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