Regarding the NYPD background packet and firearms

[mdan10]

Hey, I am pretty sure you can voucher these things at the PD, in fact my investigator told me that when I asked him a similar question

[phantasm]

It is an integrity issue and if you lied or chose to omit that you owned a firearm and got hired you would be fired. The investigations on you doesn't end when you get hired.

Nor does it end after the 2 year probation. If they find out you lied on any paperwork, they can terminate you and charge you criminally (signed/notarized false statement).

[phantasm]

about vouchering the firearms, a former marine in my company in the academy did legally posess (and was licensed) for handguns, and he did voucher the firearms for safekeeping at his local precinct until such time he was allowed, under NYPD regulations and guidelines, to again be in posession of them.

[puma2]

And the NYPD will accept it if you voucher the firearms at a local police department. However, the local police department may not let you do this. I came in through the QUEST program and my local department was not willing to take responsibility for my firearms.

I tried to give the NYPD a statement saying that a friend of mine would assume control of the firearms while I was in the academy. My friend was a marine corps officer and her husband was an army officer. The statement was signed by both me and my friend and the statement was notarized. This wasn't good enough for the NYPD.

In the end, I had to sell the firearms to my friend and bring a copy of the notarized bill of sale to the NYPD. Currently the firearms are still with my friend and now I have to have them sent from a dealer there to a dealer here as it is not legal for me to simple buy them back in a different state and transport them to NY.

[ParadeRest]

I tried to give the NYPD a statement saying that a friend of mine would assume control of the firearms while I was in the academy. My friend was a marine corps officer and her husband was an army officer. The statement was signed by both me and my friend and the statement was notarized. This wasn't good enough for the NYPD.

You can't just hand them over, you have to sell them. If your local PD doesn't want to, voucher them at a NYPD precinct.

[basher52]

You can't just hand them over, you have to sell them. If your local PD doesn't want to, voucher them at a NYPD precinct.

You need to satisfy the job, the firearms are out of your custody and control, while in the academy. Technically, transfering them to a dealer qualifies. On paper it appears you have SOLD them to the dealer, in actuality he is holding them for you, most likely for a small fee. Once you graduate, pick them up from the dealer and complete the acquisition/disposition forms, log entry, update your 10 card and you should be good to go.

BTW, I spoke with applicant Inv. for Amarula, he has the info he needs and will proceed accordingly. Like everything else on our job, you talk to 6 people in the same command and you get 15 different answers. I was directed to the guy who knows, so there should be no problems.

[puma2]

You can't just hand them over, you have to sell them. If your local PD doesn't want to, voucher them at a NYPD precinct.

I discussed vouchering them at a NYPD precinct, but I couldn't legally transport the handguns into the city to get them to a NYPD precinct. Therefore the only option was to sell them to a friend.

Anyway, now that I have finished the academy, I need to deal with the headache of buying the firearms back from my friend and getting them shipped to NYC.

[ColtPistols]

Oh great, so you guys are saying that if you don't have proof of every firearm you've ever owned, where it is now or who you sold it to they won't accept you? That seems a little unreasonable to me. What about people who live out west, down south who don't have any paper work? Like at gun shows, garage sales, etc. And then reselling them again or giving them to a friend involved zero paper work. I find this abnormal, but for NYPD who recruit primarily city people who have been raised in an anti-gun area, maybe they have never heard of the rest of the country which provides for private sales, where people have no idea who they bought the gun from and have no receipt and after the sale don't remember serial numbers. The other academies don't have large numbers of students behaving stupid because they own a gun in another state. What the heck are applicants supposed to do if the NYPD doesn't even accept a notarized letter stating you no longer have any firearms, and don't know what they were or where they went?

[BurnzyJKD]

Oh great, so you guys are saying that if you don't have proof of every firearm you've ever owned, where it is now or who you sold it to they won't accept you? That seems a little unreasonable to me. What about people who live out west, down south who don't have any paper work? Like at gun shows, garage sales, etc. And then reselling them again or giving them to a friend involved zero paper work. I find this abnormal, but for NYPD who recruit primarily city people who have been raised in an anti-gun area, maybe they have never heard of the rest of the country which provides for private sales, where people have no idea who they bought the gun from and have no receipt and after the sale don't remember serial numbers. The other academies don't have large numbers of students behaving stupid because they own a gun in another state. What the heck are applicants supposed to do if the NYPD doesn't even accept a notarized letter stating you no longer have any firearms, and don't know what they were or where they went?

I think that a verifed LEO can speak more intelligently than me on this subject, but you sound like you are ranting my friend:p