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    Any of these things screw me over?

    From what I heard one or two is not a big deal but all of them at once?

    Underage Drinking: Been "drunk" four times, once on a 6th month anniversary, once again with same girl a year later, once with my dad and his friends while camping and once on St Patricks day.

    Sex with a Minor: I was 16 she was 15, another time I was 17 and she was 16 and again when I was 18 and she was 17. Don't know if its okay because I was within a year of them or not.

    Marijuana: One time when I was 17 (am 19 now).

    Biggest item stolen from an employer: $60 pen drive from when I worked at an office supply store when I was 16 but besides that nothing from any job.


    To balance it out I've never been arrested (knock on wood), Never gotten a ticket (knock on wood), and have a relativly decent 3.0 gpa in college (getting a four year degree).

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    You committed statutory rape in my state.
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    How do those cases work? Do you charge statutory rape against both people since both were participants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanT561 View Post
    From what I heard one or two is not a big deal but all of them at once?

    Underage Drinking: Been "drunk" four times, once on a 6th month anniversary, once again with same girl a year later, once with my dad and his friends while camping and once on St Patricks day.

    Sex with a Minor: I was 16 she was 15, another time I was 17 and she was 16 and again when I was 18 and she was 17. Don't know if its okay because I was within a year of them or not.

    Marijuana: One time when I was 17 (am 19 now).

    Biggest item stolen from an employer: $60 pen drive from when I worked at an office supply store when I was 16 but besides that nothing from any job.


    To balance it out I've never been arrested (knock on wood), Never gotten a ticket (knock on wood), and have a relativly decent 3.0 gpa in college (getting a four year degree).

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    I could be wrong, but I don't know of any state where you committed statutory rape at the ages you described, even if you were 18 and she was 17, the language of most laws allows for that close of an age to be permissable. Someone show me a law if I'm wrong, but I wouldn't worry about that.

    Underage drinking, well, the more time that passes since that happened the better. I think you're stressing too much about your youthful past when you should really just be concerned about continuing to keep your nose clean from here on out.

    Stay away from associates who are libel to get you into trouble, girls who you might think may want to get even with you if you dump them, and keep those grades UP.
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    Even if a police department in the US does not mind that you raped three people, it shows that you did not learn... at all.

    First time, maybe a screw up.
    Second time, What are you thinking?
    Third time, What the ****? Didn't you understand it is illegal?

    Not looking too good, unless you can find out the laws per state.

    Good luck either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPD Cadet View Post
    Even if a police department in the US does not mind that you raped three people, it shows that you did not learn... at all.

    First time, maybe a screw up.
    Second time, What are you thinking?
    Third time, What the ****? Didn't you understand it is illegal?

    Not looking too good, unless you can find out the laws per state.

    Good luck either way.
    WHAT? He didn't "rape" anyone. :rolleyes: In my state his acts of sex with a willing partner of the ages he gave is perfectly legal. Lets be carfeful throwing out words like rape. :cool:

    That said, his use of words that minimize and displace blame for his ADMITTED theft and drug use are a concern.
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    No the statutory rape would go against you for having sex with someone under the age of 16. However, that's my state. Could also catch Enticing a child for indecent purposes, and child molestation (possibly aggrevated child molestation if you guys did the sodomy thing). However given your age, all would be misd's and not given the same sentencing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPD Cadet View Post
    Even if a police department in the US does not mind that you raped three people, it shows that you did not learn... at all.

    First time, maybe a screw up.
    Second time, What are you thinking?
    Third time, What the ****? Didn't you understand it is illegal?

    Not looking too good, unless you can find out the laws per state.

    Good luck either way.

    Yeah saying I raped someone is going over the top in my opinion. I'm pretty sure most people have had sex before they were 18 (first sexual intercourse is around 16 for most if im not mistaken).


    None of the girls where "forced" I was in a relationship with all of them for atleast a year.

    I just don't like how the law is so biased against men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanT561 View Post
    Yeah saying I raped someone is going over the top in my opinion. I'm pretty sure most people have had sex before they were 18 (first sexual intercourse is around 16 for most if im not mistaken).


    None of the girls where "forced" I was in a relationship with all of them for at least a year.

    I just don't like how the law is so biased against men.
    Yeah, my apologies,

    It really depends on the state laws, in FL it goes 16-24 is OK. If one is 15 and one is 16 then no go. If one is 14 and one is 15, it is OK. And of course 18-118 is good too.

    It is confusing stuff, but again, all depends on state laws.

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    I dont think the sex thing is an issue...how old are you now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanT561 View Post
    Yeah saying I raped someone is going over the top in my opinion.
    But if it's an accurate statement, then your opinion matters naught. A statutory rape is still a rape.

    I'm pretty sure most people have had sex before they were 18 (first sexual intercourse is around 16 for most if im not mistaken).
    What other people may have done is not a legal defense to a crime.

    Many people operate motor vehicles on the public roadways while intoxicated, but I sure as hell can't use that explanation as a defense to committing the act myself.

    None of the girls where "forced" I was in a relationship with all of them for atleast a year.
    If the other party has not yet reached the age of consent in your state, then this doesn't matter: she can not GIVE consent. If she can not, according to the law, give consent, your "relationship" with the victim does not matter.

    I just don't like how the law is so biased against men.
    It's not. The victim can be either gender, as can the perpetrator.

    In my state, sexual penetration of a 15 year old is Criminal Sexual Contact in the third degree:

    (1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the third degree if the person engages in sexual penetration with another person and if any of the following circumstances exist:

    (a) That other person is at least 13 years of age and under 16 years of age.
    But then again, what does the law matter, when your opinion is that it's "over the top"? :rolleyes:



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    Quote Originally Posted by txinvestigator1 View Post
    WHAT? He didn't "rape" anyone. :rolleyes: In my state his acts of sex with a willing partner of the ages he gave is perfectly legal. Lets be carfeful throwing out words like rape.
    Here, that would be CSC III - which is, by law, statutory rape.

    Did he say where the sex occurred?
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    In my state, the drinking thing doesn't sound like a big deal. Anyone who only "got drunk" four times by the age of 19 is either a saint or just doesn't have that many friends. ;)

    The sex thing also would be a non-issue. Unlike someone here said earlier, unless someone is under the age of 12, (too young to give consent here), two consenting minors can have all the sex they want. As far as their having sex after he turned 18, the gap between their ages is minimal enough that it doesn't fall into rape, molestation or sexual misconduct with a child. So, as far as where I am, he's okay on this.

    Marijuana use if actually only once, again, not a huge deal.

    The biggest problem I see, is the theft of the $60.00 pen thingee. Be prepared to do some explaining over that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plazoo View Post
    The sex thing also would be a non-issue. Unlike someone here said earlier, unless someone is under the age of 12, (too young to give consent here), two consenting minors can have all the sex they want.
    I'm no expert in WA substantive law, but I just spent a few minutes searching WA age of sexual consent and sexual misconduct laws, and I'm going to have to say "bull****" to this one.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44
    http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
    http://teenadvice.about.com/library/...nsentchart.htm
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    The age of consent in WA is 12 years old ??? No freaking way.

    From what I found, it's 16 (some sites say 16 for males and 18 for females).



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    Sorry , let me clear this up a bit. I didn't say the age of consent was 16, I only meant that, as far as consentual sex is concerned people under 12 don't have the ability to consent. Meaning, if a 12 year old consents to havin g sex with, say a 14 year old, it doesn't matter since people that young don't have the mental capacity to make that kind of determination.

    As far as other people, our sexual crime laws are like this:

    9A.44.079 Rape of a Child III: A person is guilty of rape of a child third degree when the person has sexual intercourse with another who is at least 14 years old but less than 16 years old and not married to the perpetator and the perpetrator is at least 48 months older than the victim.

    9A.44.096 Sexual Misconduct with a minor II: A person is guilty of sexual misconduct with a minor when the person has, or knowingly causes, another person under the age of 18 to have, sexual contact with another person who is at least 16 but less than 18 and not married to the perpetrator, if the perpetrator is at least 60 months older than the victim...etc..the rest covers abuse of position of authority.

    9A.44.089 Child Molestation III: A person is guilty of child molestation whhen the person has, or knowingly causes another person undre the age of 18 to have, sexual contact with another who is at least 14 but less than 16 and is not married to the perp and the perp is at least 48 months older than the victim.
    So while the age of consent may be 18, the courts recognise that teens will experriment/have sex which is the reason why there is the span of months that someone must be before one of these crimes have been committed. At least that's how it was explained to me.

    So, by the statutes above, the original poster still hasn't done anything wrong as far as I can tell. Feel free to PM me if you have any conflicting information.
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