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    Quote Originally Posted by RO56 View Post
    But if it's an accurate statement, then your opinion matters naught. A statutory rape is still a rape.

    What other people may have done is not a legal defense to a crime.

    Many people operate motor vehicles on the public roadways while intoxicated, but I sure as hell can't use that explanation as a defense to committing the act myself.

    If the other party has not yet reached the age of consent in your state, then this doesn't matter: she can not GIVE consent. If she can not, according to the law, give consent, your "relationship" with the victim does not matter.

    It's not. The victim can be either gender, as can the perpetrator.

    In my state, sexual penetration of a 15 year old is Criminal Sexual Contact in the third degree:

    But then again, what does the law matter, when your opinion is that it's "over the top"? :rolleyes:
    Happy I live in Florida then. Some crazy laws out there.

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    Crazy laws?


    yeah that's the mentality we need in more cops.........
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    Well, I understand that the laws are made to protect people. Having it called statutory rape when sex is had with someone under a certain age makes sense. It helps to punish and protect them from older predators. Charging a 16 year old with molestation, rape etc for having sex with a person one year younger them him is over the top in my opinion, especially if the girl allowed the intercourse to happen. Its not my opinion though that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plazoo View Post
    Sorry , let me clear this up a bit. I didn't say the age of consent was 16, I only meant that, as far as consentual sex is concerned people under 12 don't have the ability to consent. Meaning, if a 12 year old consents to havin g sex with, say a 14 year old, it doesn't matter since people that young don't have the mental capacity to make that kind of determination.

    As far as other people, our sexual crime laws are like this:

    9A.44.079 Rape of a Child III: A person is guilty of rape of a child third degree when the person has sexual intercourse with another who is at least 14 years old but less than 16 years old and not married to the perpetator and the perpetrator is at least 48 months older than the victim.

    9A.44.096 Sexual Misconduct with a minor II: A person is guilty of sexual misconduct with a minor when the person has, or knowingly causes, another person under the age of 18 to have, sexual contact with another person who is at least 16 but less than 18 and not married to the perpetrator, if the perpetrator is at least 60 months older than the victim...etc..the rest covers abuse of position of authority.

    9A.44.089 Child Molestation III: A person is guilty of child molestation whhen the person has, or knowingly causes another person undre the age of 18 to have, sexual contact with another who is at least 14 but less than 16 and is not married to the perp and the perp is at least 48 months older than the victim.
    So while the age of consent may be 18, the courts recognise that teens will experriment/have sex which is the reason why there is the span of months that someone must be before one of these crimes have been committed. At least that's how it was explained to me.

    So, by the statutes above, the original poster still hasn't done anything wrong as far as I can tell. Feel free to PM me if you have any conflicting information.
    You can always go with "Communication with a minor for immoral purposes" too.
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.68A.090

    1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, a person who communicates with a minor for immoral purposes, or a person who communicates with someone the person believes to be a minor for immoral purposes, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

    (2) A person who communicates with a minor for immoral purposes is guilty of a class C felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW if the person has previously been convicted under this section or of a felony sexual offense under chapter 9.68A, 9A.44, or 9A.64 RCW or of any other felony sexual offense in this or any other state or if the person communicates with a minor or with someone the person believes to be a minor for immoral purposes through the sending of an electronic communication
    So basically, it's legal for an 18 and a 17 year old to have sex, but it's illegal for the 18 year old to talk to the 17 year old about having the said sex. :cool:
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    Any of these things screw me over?
    Apparently underage females do :D
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    I think any laws that are so inconsistant from state to state are "crazy" in a way... Firearms laws in some states are just wacko from my state's viewpoint, even for off-duty LEO carry. If I carried in NYC what I carry here, no telling how many weapons violations I'd get charged with - Yet my acts in NYC would be no less peaciful than here.

    And there are actually people in prison for doing something 10 years ago that would be a Class C misdameanor if they did the same thing now - I think that's wacko too (drug offenses under old laws are what I'm think of here).

    It's also strange to me that BG checks judge some acts based on the laws in effect where the act took place at the time (such as the startatory rape laws), yet some other BG check guidelines are based on the state of residence, not the place that the act took place (so even though the act may have taken place in a state or country where it was legal at the time, it still fails the BG check if it wasn't legal where he lived. College students on spring break visiting countries with legal prostitution, drinking and drugs are a good example).

    I've never done anything where I'd have to haul out those legal fine points, but I've read about those situations.
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    www.ageofconsent.com

    Lists every states age of consent for.. Heterosexual sex, and homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyHat View Post
    www.ageofconsent.com

    Lists every states age of consent for.. Heterosexual sex, and homosexual.
    But be sure to read the fine print. The listing for Maryland, for example, lists 16 as the age of consent. However, you will find that sex with younger folks isn't illegal if certain conditions are met (such as no greater than four years age difference).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanT561 View Post
    Charging a 16 year old with molestation, rape etc for having sex with a person one year younger them him is over the top in my opinion, especially if the girl allowed the intercourse to happen.
    THAT is the ENTIRE purpose of defining an age of consent -- she CAN'T consent if she does not have the mental capacity to do so. YOU might think that she "allowed the intercourse to happen", but there are a TON of lawmakers, sociologists, and medical doctors who disagree with you by saying she CAN'T give consent.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ngcsubutterbar View Post
    Crazy laws?


    yeah that's the mentality we need in more cops.........
    What, you agree with every law? He never wrote he would not enforce them. I think there are some crazy laws out there. I guess I was a bad cop. :mad:
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    If you think the sex laws I wrote about are crazy, then yes that's what I mean. Sure there are some really silly laws, but I don't think anything to do with sexual misconduct is crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngcsubutterbar View Post
    Crazy laws?


    yeah that's the mentality we need in more cops.........
    BS. There are laws out there I don't agree with. And I'm sure you don't agree with every law out their either. The key here is, just because we think laws are crazy, doesn't mean that they shouldn't be enforced.
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