Misdemeanor Arrest

[ESU3]

Hey guys, new to the forums but have been reading them for the past couple of days.
I'm 20 right now, full-time college student pursuing a BA In CRJ. When I was 19, I was visiting a friend in college and long story short i was selling cups for them at the front door. i was arrested and charged with unlawfully dealing with a minor in the first degree a class A misdemeanor in NY state. In court it was dropped to a 6 month ACD.

With that, I was wondering if through all of your experiences if that's grounds for an automatic DQ in the NYPD process? I know that each case is different, and that honesty really is the best policy, but I guess I'm just looking for some info on whether or not Id be an automatic DQ. Any help you can be would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help and I'll see you around the forums

[retdetsgt]

When I was 19, I was visiting a friend in college and long story short i was selling cups for them at the front door. i was arrested and charged with unlawfully dealing with a minor in the first degree a class A misdemeanor in NY state.

Selling cups? What kind of cups? I never heard of "dealing with a minor"? Dealing what or how with a minor? What part of that was a crime? You need to explain this a lot more, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Jim1348]

I think what he is trying to say is that they had a party in which beer was being distributed to people under the legal drinking age. You buy a cup at the door in order to consume.

[Samuel]

These days, kids are doing lots of stupid(er) things - it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't just alcohol anymore... :(

[ESU3]

Sorry for the confusion, i was selling cups at the front door for the keg they had in their house. They would give me the money and i would give them a cup. It was a college party so there was people under twenty one that was their consuming alcohol. I was subsequently charged with Unlawfully Dealing with a Minor in the first degree (which for example would be buying beer for underage kids) its a Class A misdemeanor. The DA gave me a six month ACD. And i was wondering how much this would be held against me or if it is an automatic DQ.

[Samuel]

IMO, it probably won't be an autoDQ BUT it just happened SO, you're probably gonna have to wait awhile before anyone considers you seriously (and that's assuming you make good decisions and stay out of trouble)...

[ESU3]

Ok thanks for the input. Im also an EMT and a Vol. Fireman, so hopefully that kind of shows the BI that I'm not just some skell.

[Kimble]

Ok thanks for the input. Im also an EMT and a Vol. Fireman, so hopefully that kind of shows the BI that I'm not just some skell.

You being an EMT and volunteer FF is fine and dandy, but that doesn't undo what Samuel already pointed out, that your arrest happened only one (1) year ago. You are probably going to need more time (i.e. a FEW years) of responsible living without any more criminal wrongdoing before a good agency takes you seriously.

[mcsap]

You made an adult choice to endanger those under 21. It will take a few ( 4-5) years to diminish that. In the meanwhile , start doing some GOOD for your community , so much so that it begins to obliterate the bad.

[ESU3]

You made an adult choice to endanger those under 21. It will take a few ( 4-5) years to diminish that. In the meanwhile , start doing some GOOD for your community , so much so that it begins to obliterate the bad.

i wasn't charged with endangering the welfare of a child, just unlawfully dealing with one. And i don think that i would have too much of a problem doing good for my community, I coach the CYO basketball team, i volunteer to tutor kids in math, and english, as well as an EMT for my towns ambulance corp and our towns Vol. FD. Thanks for everyones input, i recently talked to someone who is OTJ about my situation (friend of my fathers) he had told me that this is a very common occurrence now for college students. He told me its not going to jam me up, i just have to explain to the psychiatrist that i don't have a drinking problem, he told me since I'm irish anyway they were going to ask me about that. So i don't see that being a problem since i am almost always the Designated Driver. Once again just wanted to thank everyone for their input.

[Citicop]

You know that everyone who has replied to you in this thread is also OTJ, right?

, i just have to explain to the psychiatrist that i don't have a drinking problem, he told me since I'm irish anyway they were going to ask me about that.

WTF? Is the psychologist some kind of prejudiced ethnic stereotyper? I have never heard of anyone being asked about alcohol use just because of their parentage and I would be offended if that ever happened.

Like it or not, the responses here make valid points (and unlike your dad's friend, we are less worried about hurting your feelings here...). It will NOT keep you out of Law Enforcement, but it MAY require a little time to show you've matured since that incident.

I don't work for a very big department, but the last job opening we had we had SIXTY applicants for the one opening. An incident that recent would easily have been enough to get your application moved out of the top tier.

Just my opinion, of course...

-Citicop.

[ESU3]

You know that everyone who has replied to you in this thread is also OTJ, right?



Like it or not, the responses here make valid points (and unlike your dad's friend, we are less worried about hurting your feelings here...). It will NOT keep you out of Law Enforcement, but it MAY require a little time to show you've matured since that incident.

I don't work for a very big department, but the last job opening we had we had SIXTY applicants for the one opening. An incident that recent would easily have been enough to get your application moved out of the top tier.

Just my opinion, of course...

-Citicop.

I am planning on going into a very big department, and i agree that it will take some time to show that i have matured and that the incident was only a one time thing. And i know everyone that replied is OTJ, iwas only stating that the guy OTJ that my father (he's OTJ as well) talked to is in charge of applicant screening, and that they see it all the time and its not held against you as much as drug history and other factors.And i was just thanking all the guys who replied to assist me with my dilemma

[Citicop]

I am planning on going into a very big department, and i agree that it will take some time to show that i have matured and that the incident was only a one time thing. And i know everyone that replied is OTJ, iwas only stating that the guy OTJ that my father (he's OTJ as well) talked to is in charge of applicant screening, and that they see it all the time and its not held against you as much as drug history and other factors.And i was just thanking all the guys who replied to assist me with my dilemma

Outstanding. With a little time on your side, I'm sure you'll do fine. Just wanted to make sure you weren't "shopping around" for an answer you liked better than the ones you got here. I agree that it will not be held agaisnt you as much as illegal drug use and other factors (which is not to say that it will have no effect at all).

Good Luck!

-Citicop.