stolen handgun with serial #

[dave56301]

is it possible to recover a handgun at a crime scene-
run the serial # to find out if it was stolen or not-
THEN ---
can the officer DELEATE the trace on that gun
or
what im asking is
is there a way to make a gun recovery DISSAPEAR
and have no trace on that gun ?-

or better yet
my stolen handgun
s&w 29 44 magnum serial #cdd3943
the local pd says this hasnt been recovered

[retdetsgt]

It can be done after the gun is recovered, but it takes more than one person to authorize it.

Most handguns aren't recovered, by the way. They are sometimes used in crimes and then disposed of.

[CPL1897]

I can understand your frustration about YOUR PROPERTY that was stolen and it being a FIREARM is worse in my opinion..With that said, MOST common stolen property is seldom recovered and the percentage of HANDGUNS is even lower..This is for many reasons..I cant post how we "look" or attempt to "recover" property, but I will say criminals may not be the brightest folks (If they were alot of us would be unemployed) but they have caught on to how we attempt to locate stolen property etc. AND they
know HAVING A GUN IS A BIG NO-No and having a STOLEN GUN is a REALLY BIG NO-NO, so like was already said USUALLY stolen guns are used then "tossed"...

GOOD LUCK. I HOPE IT IS RECOVERED FOR YOUR SAKE AND OURS!

[G35 Mass]

is it possible to recover a handgun at a crime scene-
run the serial # to find out if it was stolen or not-
THEN ---
can the officer DELEATE the trace on that gun
or
what im asking is
is there a way to make a gun recovery DISSAPEAR
and have no trace on that gun ?-

or better yet
my stolen handgun
s&w 29 44 magnum serial #cdd3943
the local pd says this hasnt been recovered

What makes you think it's been recovered?

[CPL1897]

As said, do you have a reason to believe its been recovered? You may want to clarify the questions you have asked because it sounds as if you think the gun was recovered and the Officers/Agency that recovered it "made any record of it being stolen/recovered vanish"..Every agency has different protocal for "removing a stolen item"
from NCIC (The NATIONAL database EVERY LE AGENCY uses) but I can say with certainty that the "record" doesnt "disappear" its arcived and "traceable" to say the least..Think of a CARFAX for property but 100% accurate and permanent..

[Citicop]

I don't think that what you are asking is possible.

When a handgun gets entered into NCIC as stolen, it stays there until someone with access at the original entering agency cancels it out. Someone at the recovering agency can enter it as "recovered," however.

Either way, it would be possible to trace back who canceled the entry (or entered it as recovered) to a specific user. So if someone DID "make the entry disappear," they would quickly be caught.

-Citicop.

[dave56301]

yeah really-alot of good it does to have a serial # to a firearm, ! huh?-
the criminals take guns rob people then drop the gun in the river or a lake?-
or not even that ! law enforcement agencies dont even notify the victim
they just recover the gun/destroy it or sell it to a ffl gun dealer-

[dave56301]

this gun was stolen in 02 i walk into the police dept -without warning
and ask the cops and they just look at me and they say no it hasnt been recovered
unless they r a mind reader ?-

thats why i posted my handgun w/serial # on this site-maybe someone could/or knows someone who has the ncic capability
you know what im sayin?-

[retdetsgt]

All I can say is that I was a cop for 28 years and I recovered a total of two stolen handguns. And yes, both were returned to the owner. One was recovered 11 years after it was stolen. I found it in a drug raid. The other was used in a homicide where I recovered the gun on a search warrant.

And as stated, taking a stolen gun info out of NCIC isn't something that easily done.

But it appears you didn't come here to ask a legitimate question, just b!tch about cops.

[Joeyd6]

I think you are worried your stolen gun was recovered and somebody mak eteh stolen report and foudn report disappear.

Deleting all electronic "footprints" of a gun recovery is impossible. While the entry of the stolen gun to NCIC for a hit and the removal of such when recovered can be done; there is a an administrative data file of who entered it and who removed it.

[G35 Mass]

this gun was stolen in 02 i walk into the police dept -without warning
and ask the cops and they just look at me and they say no it hasnt been recovered
unless they r a mind reader ?-

thats why i posted my handgun w/serial # on this site-maybe someone could/or knows someone who has the ncic capability
you know what im sayin?-

Well, we all have "the ncic capability", but none of us will commit a felony to take care of your business.

If it was recovered, you'd be notified. If someone walked into my station and asked me if a stolen ____ was recovered, I too would immediately answer "no, not if you haven't been notified".

[icu650]

Hey Dave I understand your pissed off but why. You have not answered the question why or how do you know it was recovered? Why all the attitude if you don't know for a fact is was recovered. Sounds like you know it was recovered and from where but pissed because it is not entered yet. The gun was stolen in 02 when and why did you walk into the police department to inquire about it? At least I hope you had a rider on the gun. Many people don't know that most weapons are not automatically included in homeowners policies.

[CPL1897]

YOU SHOULDNT BE PISSED AT LE (US), you can only be angry at the person who stole it..I dont know the specifics in your case but we have hundreds of car burglaries (folks leave doors unlocked with guns etc inside) and in that case you can blame the person who took it and yourself..When ANY stolen item is recovered the owner is notified, it may not be immediately (ongoing investigation, obtaining latent evidence from property etc.) BUT THEY ARE NOTIFIED! Recovered stolen property, (regardless of weapon or not) is not "DESTROYED" when its recovered..If the MILLION people that have had something stolen went to cops and wanted us to run the items to check if they were "still stolen" we wouldnt be able to do OUR JOBS (including catching the bad guys and recovering property etc.)

I understand your frustration. BUT YOUR TAKING IT OUT ON THE WRONG FOLKS!

You also need to understand the reality that The gun may never be recovered..

ALSO IF IT IS USED IN A CRIME (MURDER ETC.) DEPENDING ON AGENCY PROTOCAL AND FEDERAL/STATE LAWS IT MAY BE "MANDATED" IT BE DESTROYED.. But you would still be notified of the recovery and "disposition" of the gun..

[basher52]

I will say to both the OP and others, there have been instances, where AFTER a recovery the alarm was properly canceled, but the agency failed to notify the owner of said recovery. Let's face it, not everyone or agency always gets it right.

To the OP, while no one here ith access would even think of running your gun (see other posts) you can make or ask the agency to run it for you. Explain your concerns politely, that you feel it may have been recovered and that you were never notified. Also a good time to insure they have your proper contact info.

[retdetsgt]

I will say to both the OP and others, there have been instances, where AFTER a recovery the alarm was properly canceled, but the agency failed to notify the owner of said recovery. Let's face it, not everyone or agency always gets it right.

I can't speak for other agencies, but in mine that would be pretty rare. The person that clears it (not the recovering officer) is the one responsible for notifying the owner, it's all part of the same process. It's done by the property room personnel who have an interest in clearing out as much property as possible. In fact, when I left, they had one person who's job it was to find owners of found and recovered property and to clear it from local, state and NCIC files.