When can a boxer defend himself or hit someone?

[jocktick]

At what point can a boxer punch someone without getting in trouble, either in self defense, defending someone else, to stop a crime, or any other legal reasons you guys have? Boxers have a bigger responsibility with fighting because fists are registered lethal weapons in California, so they can't start fights. But when is it okay for them to hit someone? How do these laws for them work?

-like is it only if they try to throw a punch at you,
-is it when they physically try to strike/grab/bullrush/push you in any way,
-or if they corner/surround you,

-what if they taunt you a lot and keep going in front of you not letting you leave, or keep coming back to you when your both in the same area, would any of these let a boxer do anything there(including smacking/slap/pushing) or would you have to wait for them to punch?)

-and if some guy tried to smack you or slap you, could you still punch him? (if you couldn't punch him, could you dip under it/block it and smack him across the face or chop his side with the side of your hand instead of punching him just once? And would it make a difference if he was taunting you?)

-if a big guy/group of guys is messing with a smaller guy/girl when can a boxer intervene
-if someone just committed a crime or was about to
-if he gets jumped

And when does a boxer have to stop fighting? is it when the guy is on the ground or runs away or something

And is a boxer's smack or slap still looked at as an assault with a deadly weapon? or is it just fists? like if someone tried pushing you, smacking you or punching you and you still didn't want to hurt them like that, so instead of using your fist you just smacked them or chopped them and they just dropped

And if someone attacks a boxer and he punches him once or a couple times then stops and it breaks his jaw or something, could the attacker successfully sue/press charges against the boxer he attacked?

[retdetsgt]

Boxers have a bigger responsibility with fighting because fists are registered lethal weapons in California, so they can't start fights.

Lethal weapons? Who told you that? And it's illegal for anyone to start a fight.

[Kimble]

Boxers have a bigger responsibility with fighting because fists are registered lethal weapons in California...

Which state agency are you required to register your hands with? Sounds like you're believing something to be true just because you heard it from someone (without actually checking if it's actually true).

[jocktick]

well yeah i heard from my coach that once your a registered boxer if you get into a fight the cop will ask you if you box or will run your name and it will come up that your a registered boxer. and you get a bigger penalty for it then a normal person like instead of 6 months in jail, you get like 2-3 years.

[Citicop]

well yeah i heard from my coach that once your a registered boxer if you get into a fight the cop will ask you if you box or will run your name and it will come up that your a registered boxer. and you get a bigger penalty for it then a normal person like instead of 6 months in jail, you get like 2-3 years.

Yeah, that's why he's a coach and not a lawyer.

There is nothing about that which is true.

[jocktick]

retdetsgt i know its illegal to start a fight no matter who you are(i left that part out). and my coach told me that once you register as a boxer its in the database and your fists are considered deadly weapons, if you get in a fight it will show up when cops run your name, or they ask you if you box and consider it a aggravated assault with a deadly weapon if it wasn't self defense

[jocktick]

really so i have just as much of a right to fight back as a normal person would? and if i slipped up(i dont intend to im pretty nice guy) and got provoked then threw the first punch, it would be as if a normal person did it right? the judge wouldnt look at it differently?

[retdetsgt]

It would be exactly the same as anyone else. A judge won't care. The normal statutes will apply to you as well as a little old lady with an umbrella.

[Citicop]

It would be exactly the same as anyone else. A judge won't care. The normal statutes will apply to you as well as a little old lady with an umbrella.

Exactly.

Now, if you do more damage because of your training, and you put a guy in a coma, that would be looked at exactly the same as anybody else who put a guy in a coma in a fight.

[scott715us]

I think your boxing skills might come up in a civil action (lawsuit), but as the others have said, in criminal matters, not likely.

Fists as deadly weapons? That's pretty good. Reminds me of "Fists of Fury," good Bruce Lee movie.

[greg72982]

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[mobrien316]

I had to register my sarcasm as a lethal weapon in Connecticut after I cut up a few stupid people with it...

[G35 Mass]

Which state agency are you required to register your hands with? Sounds like you're believing something to be true just because you heard it from someone (without actually checking if it's actually true).

HAHA. I went back to college after starting my LE career. My first day in class was the Intro to CJ class taught by a lady who was a clerk at a PD for years and did some axillary work for them (what I'm getting at: CLEARLY qualified to teach at the college level [/sarcasm]).

So at some point she says that black belts have to register their hands. I stood up and asked what State agency they register those with.

She didn't know, and I was pretty much "done" with that class before it even started.

I also was asked by her to teach for a day, explaining search & seizure, etc.. Highly awkward.

[ducatimom]

Lol!!!!

i had to register my sarcasm as a lethal weapon in connecticut after i cut up a few stupid people with it...

[ducatimom]

Look, if you were in my hood and I responded to the call I would look at the level of force used in defense of yourself. I go by the whole "minimum force necessary to neutralize the threat" idea.

If you can walk away, that is the best force of all, none. If you are cornered, increasing your reaction to what is the minimum to get out of the corner and go on your merry way is all good to me.

However, if someone is up in your grill yapping insults, SUCK IT UP. In my area punching someone for being a *^%^%*# gets you in trouble.

Sucks, but true.