Ha ok here is a DL tricky question.

[Ruzzosplinter]

Ok my brother has been revoked in the state of Nebraska for 15 years. Thats awful long time. He is on a DUI revocation. 3rd or 4th DUI I am not sure really. Anyways, since he's been out of jail he has been sober 6 months now and plans to move out of state since it would be a felony if he gets caught driving and there isn't such thing as public transport in this area. He still drives and just bought a vehicle he intends to drive down south to LA to go look for a better life.
Now this is where the craziness begins. He says he cannot go on without driving for 15 years, that it is ridiculous to better your life without that privilege. He constantly talks to me about ways around it from a fake I.D to Identity theft. He even bought some books on creating a new identity. But his latest idea and proposition to me is this. He wants to get a novelty drivers license with MY name and info and DL number but with his picture. He says he researched and that police officers cannot see the picture in the license when they access the records in their computers if the license its from another state. Especially one such as Nebraska. I want to help my brother, i truly have seen change in him and he has the drive to succeed but I think he might be digging himself a bigger hole here. I don't know how true this information he has researched is but I also dont want to get my driving record ruined by him if he gets back to drinking. Its a moral dilemma as well as a technical one. I ask for no help with the moral one since as police officers I would expect you to stand on the side of the right thing to do, which would be for him not to drive AT ALL. But then there is real life circumstances and he will drive no matter what. I just dont want him in anymore trouble than he's already been, especially now that he is doing so good staying sober. Any advice is valuable really. I will be showing him this message before he attempts any of this so he can hear it from some real police officers.

Thank you again for your great service to our society that without you we would be a world of anarchy.

Sincerely

Ruzzo

[Citicop]

No one here is going to offer any encouragement for him to commit Identity Theft (which is exactly what he would be doing by using a "Novelty ID" with anyone else's name on it.)

We can see DL pictures here when we run names, and it's easy to tell a real ID from a fake one in almost every case. If he does this he WILL get caught.

You should do everything you can to prevent your brother from using your name, because even if it DOES work, then you get tickets, arrests, warrants, and a criminal record in YOUR name and that can take years and thousands of dollars to repair.

And if he has an ID with your name on it, and no moral issues using this info when it suits him, why would he not use it to get a credit card or other bills in your name?

There is no "dilemma" here. Just a guy who doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions and is willing to break the law to get around them. There's no help or assistance here for people who do that.

-Citicop.

[icu650]

He will be caught no matter how he tries to circumvent the system, his past proves that. It may be tough getting around for fifteen years but at least he is able to walk. The person he may kill wont. If he drives, you will be sending him letters in prison for many, many years.
Hand him this and let him hold on to it so he can re-read it in prison. You were warned-You didn't listen!

Nebraska DUI Laws

FIFTH OFFENSE DUI - CLASS III FELONY - FINES: $25,000; JAIL: 1-20 years in prison; LICENSE SUSPENSION: 15 years. PROBATION: 180 days in jail, $1,000 fine and 15 year license revocation.

FIFTH OFFENSE DUI - BAC .15 OR HIGHER - CLASS III FELONY - FINES: $25,000; JAIL: up to 50 years in prison; LICENSE SUSPENSION: 15 years. PROBATION: 180 days in jail, $1,000 fine and 15 year license revocation.

[TEXASCOP]

Its obvious he does not wish to stop his criminal activity. Maybe if he went before a magistrate he could get an occupational drivers license (it has restrictions ie he can only drive during certain hours) but my experience is in Texas I'm not sure about your state. If there is no other legal way around it and he gets caught using a fake ID to identify himself, he will be up a creek without a paddle. I know he is family but maybe its time for a little tough love. If it were my brother I would tell him that any further mention of illegal activity I would cut off from interacting with me.

[ChesCopPodz]

You should do everything you can to prevent your brother from using your name, because even if it DOES work, then you get tickets, arrests, warrants, and a criminal record in YOUR name and that can take years and thousands of dollars to repair.

Huge issue here. A lot of states have interstate compacts with DL's. This means that unpaid tickets in one state gets your license suspended in the state you have a DL from.

Guess whose license gets suspended in that situation if your brother gets tickets and decides not to pay them because they can't trace them back to him? And guess who gets warrants in their name because he fails to appear? Companies doing background checks on you will find out that "you" are wanted, and will hire someone without warrants.

[Sgt. Slaughter]

It's not tricky at all, actually. He wants your permission to use you in a scheme to commit identity theft and fraud.

Don't let him use you or your information unless you want to see each other on the same cell block.

[Legoate]

It's not a moral dilemma at all- it's clearly the wrong thing to do so you shouldn't do it.

And will he get caught? Well, ask yourself, has he been getting away with driving drunk so far?

In most states falsely personating another person is a felony.... so he can chance the felony for driving unlicensed, or he can face the felony of using somebody else's identity.... OR, he could just not break the law.

[Joeyd6]

He gets caught its no big deal...he has nothing to lose. He will most likely rat out you gave him the info.

Now you get arrested for a felony.....pay legal fees and have to go to court....and have your license suspended.

Is it worth it?

[Ruzzosplinter]

Gentlemen, I have much to thank you for since I have decided, thanks to your advice to not let my brother use my license. You are correct in ever sense and it is definitely the wrong thing to do and I have nothing to gain but everything to lose in this situation. He was offended when I showed him the print outs from the forum. To me that shows alot about his true intentions and character.
Unfortunately he has opted for another solution to his problem which I doubt is any better. We are a first generation Mexican-Americans therefore speak perfect spanish. His new plan is to do as many illegal immigrants do in this country and buy a valid social security number and birth certificate and assume some else's identity. I'm not very familiar with this process but I am sure you all have seen this a hundred times. I actually have an uncle that has three names, can you believe that? He mentioned something about an international license or a Mexican drivers license one of the two that supposedly fly by with just a "no operators license" ticket. Anyways, Thank you all for your input and again, thank you for your service.

[mcsap]

International drivers licesnes ( IDL's) are ONLY good in the USA when the person is visiting here and has a home country drivers license AND the IDL. They are not an end run around having a valid US issued license. I have seen TWO valid IDL's in 25 years and whenever I see one , I know there is a HIGH chance that it is NO GOOD. If you are living in the USA , an IDL is no good.

If you are living here in the US , a Mexican / Canadian etc drivers license is NO GOOD. That person will be charged as driving without a license and assigned an in-state drivers number which will build a brand new driving record of violations. Repeat violaations of driving without a license result in the persons driving privileges to be suspended. Get caught driving under suspension and the penalty goes up to $1,000 and 90 days for each offense.

And I am willing to bet that booze will creep back into the picture.

[Legoate]

Trust me as a cop from CA who sees Mexican drivers on a daily basis- it's not going to fly. What your brother really wants to have happen is for him to go to prison for identity theft. There are thousands of people in prison who thought they could shortcut and beat the system. There are thousands who think they are smarter than the police and will get away from it. Your brother has a hard life ahead of him if he keeps this nonsense up. If I doubt his identity on a stop, I'll just book him into jail on an ID hold and have him fingerprinted.

As I said before, using a false identity will get you prison time. He knows the consequences, let him play the game. It's his life.

[retdetsgt]

As I said before, using a false identity will get you prison time. He knows the consequences, let him play the game. It's his life.

Yep. I've arrested more than a few people who's name and date of birth was used by one of their family members when they committed a crime. Apparently, your brother doesn't think much of you if he wants to use your name for his illegal activities.