Traffic Question

[wisco]

I've been meaning to ask this for some time, but it keeps slipping my mind.

In my city there is an intersection which parallels the entrance/exit to a grocery store.

The road is a one way heading north. There are about 20 feet between the roadway and the entrance/exit.

Many times I find myself using this intersection. I come to the stop sign wanting to turn right. There is already someone waiting to exit the parking lot wanting to turn left.

Who actually has right of way?

I'm under the impression that I would, as I'm on a public street vs their parking lot, on the other hand they technically were there first... so I really don't know. I've witnessed multiple cluster---ks at this intersection because of this.

[wisco]

50 views... does nobody know?

[1depd]

You're using several different terms for the same thing, which makes it very difficult to determine anything. Using left/right and north/south mean nothing if they are not carried throughout your example. If you can't give a good verbal description of the intersection (no dig on you some intersection are tough to describe in words), providing an address so we can look it up on Yahoo maps or whatever is a good idea. Generally, at a four way stop, the first person at the sign has the right of way. If two or more people arrive at about the same time the person to the right has the right of way. If there is confusion, I always go back to driver's ed. The instructor said when in doubt, never take the right of way, give it.

[wisco]

Ok, my bad. Let me try again.

The road in question is one way heading north. It comes to a T intersection on a road heading east/west.

A mere 20 (if that) feet east of the intersection, parallel to the one way, is the entrance/exit to a parking lot.

In this situation, if a car is exiting the parking lot turning west and arrived there first, and I am on the road parallel to him also trying to turn, but I arrived second, who has right of way?

As I said, I think that I do because I am on an actual road and he is not, but I'm not sure. My city has a couple of dumb setups like this.

Is that better?

[wisco]

Ok still no reply so maybe I'm still not being clear enough

I found a picture on Google Maps of the intersection. Go easy on my editing skills ;)




So as shown in the picture, blue car arrives first wishing to turn on to main road, but is exiting a parking lot. Red car arrives second, also wishing to turn on to main road but is also on an actual road himself.

Who has right of way?

[QldCop]

Not knowing your road rules, I would have thought that the vehicle traveling on the road has right of way over the vehicle exiting the driveway... IDUNNAKNOW