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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    You got hit with a bat and HAVE NO MARKS? No cop on here is going to believe that. A bat made no mark yet your fist made a balck eye?

    Either you are full of it or she was swinging like ten year old girl and you just opened up and beat her down.
    Exactly. Any blunt force object with ANY force behind it would leave a bruise at minimum. Now if she had it in her hand or swinging it at you, that's still assault (or agg assault) in many states. If you didn't feel you were in danger with someone with a bat in their hand, then obviously you would probably be looked at as the "aggressor." You're basically telling us that you punched her in the eye in "self-defense," but there were no marks on you and you were not in fear of the bat. I don't care who the person is, if they have a bat in hand and hostile towards me, I'm going to be a tad bit scared. If they actually hit me with it in anger, I'm going to have a mark somewhere. I'm not a doctor or forensic pathologist, but as an EMT for 10 years and a LEO for 9, I can tell you that bats leave marks. One good strike in the right place could kill you. Too many holes in this story. Maybe it was one of these....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    You got hit with a bat and HAVE NO MARKS? No cop on here is going to believe that. A bat made no mark yet your fist made a black eye?

    Either you are full of it or she was swinging like ten year old girl and you just opened up and beat her down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    I can tell you that if you gave your girl friend a black eye, you can kiss off any idea of ever going into any form of law enforcement.
    Exactly. That pesky Lautenberg Amendment strikes again.

    So OP, when you get to the part of your background that goes over undetected/unreported crimes that you've committed - what are you going to say about this incident? When your BI talks to your girlfriend and asks if you've ever hit her, what is SHE going to say? You've just opened a big can of "Oops" here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott715us View Post
    Exactly. Any blunt force object with ANY force behind it would leave a bruise at minimum. Now if she had it in her hand or swinging it at you, that's still assault (or agg assault) in many states. If you didn't feel you were in danger with someone with a bat in their hand, then obviously you would probably be looked at as the "aggressor." You're basically telling us that you punched her in the eye in "self-defense," but there were no marks on you and you were not in fear of the bat. I don't care who the person is, if they have a bat in hand and hostile towards me, I'm going to be a tad bit scared. If they actually hit me with it in anger, I'm going to have a mark somewhere. I'm not a doctor or forensic pathologist, but as an EMT for 10 years and a LEO for 9, I can tell you that bats leave marks. One good strike in the right place could kill you. Too many holes in this story. Maybe it was one of these....

    I see what you're saying. She didn't connect on her hard swings towards me though. The times she actually connected were in my stomach area. It's kind of hard to bruise a stomach, especially when it's a girl swinging. I didn't want to take the chance of her landing a blow to my head so I did what I had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    I can tell you that if you gave your girl friend a black eye, you can kiss off any idea of ever going into any form of law enforcement.
    Are you serious? Even if I'm not charged with anything? Wow. No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoDirectly2Jail View Post
    Exactly. That pesky Lautenberg Amendment strikes again.

    So OP, when you get to the part of your background that goes over undetected/unreported crimes that you've committed - what are you going to say about this incident? When your BI talks to your girlfriend and asks if you've ever hit her, what is SHE going to say? You've just opened a big can of "Oops" here.
    I guess I don't see what I did as a crime. I know you guys are all ganging up on me because the woman is always the victim, I get that. However, one landed connection from that bat was going to put me down hard. I didnt know what to do, and reacted how I would against anybody that has a deadly weapon. I dont have the luxury of pulling out a tazer like you guys. I honestly didn't hit her hard but clearly she bruises easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get_Some View Post
    Are you serious? Even if I'm not charged with anything? Wow. No way.
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