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    Quote Originally Posted by toughlife View Post
    Simple and straight forward response. I have to admit you've made me feel like nothing, but then again that can change if I start reporting illegal activities. The question is, would ICE even deem my tip credible? I mean I can imagine there have been many instances where people report what they think is a fraud, but infact is legit. I would really get pissed off if I reported this, and the guy was still issued the green card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughlife View Post
    Absolutely without a doubt, our daughter is going to be 3 in december. On the other hand I know there is no love involved in my friends marriage. Besides it's pretty obvious, shes 12 years older than him, shes white, and he's hispanic. Plus she has 3 kids underage kids, and he has none, and they don't even live together. Hell, the guy is even using a relative as a sponsor because she doesn't work!!! So I mean it's completely obvious that the marriage is strictly business. Without a doubt I will call the ICE fraud unit, but will my name be kept ananymous?
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    I'm Caucasian, my wife is from Argentina. Your rationalization skills are terrible. You can talk yourself into/out-of anything you feel benefits you.

    Here's an example of what we preceive you are telling us:
    "If I tell the Agency I am applying for that I called on my friend for breaking the law, it will make me look good. But who cares when I do because I have a good reason. I won't have to mention this to anyone because it's not that big of a deal."

    People that think like you do get hired as LEO's. They make it for 1-8 years and then get fired/arrested for being a dumb **** and we get the black eye.

    If I were you, I would go to school and study law. Take your bar exam and become a defense attorney. You already have the mentality, all your lacking is the knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJVad View Post
    LOL!

    I'm Caucasian, my wife is from Argentina. Your rationalization skills are terrible. You can talk yourself into/out-of anything you feel benefits you.

    Here's an example of what we preceive you are telling us:
    "If I tell the Agency I am applying for that I called on my friend for breaking the law, it will make me look good. But who cares when I do because I have a good reason. I won't have to mention this to anyone because it's not that big of a deal."

    People that think like you do get hired as LEO's. They make it for 1-8 years and then get fired/arrested for being a dumb **** and we get the black eye.

    If I were you, I would go to school and study law. Take your bar exam and become a defense attorney. You already have the mentality, all your lacking is the knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughlife View Post
    Simple and straight forward response. I have to admit you've made me feel like nothing, but then again that can change if I start reporting illegal activities. The question is, would ICE even deem my tip credible? I mean I can imagine there have been many instances where people report what they think is a fraud, but infact is legit. I would really get pissed off if I reported this, and the guy was still issued the green card.
    In life there is only so much you can do about anything. I suggest you report it to ICE. You can find their contact information through google. yes all tips are credible until they are proven otherwise.

    What happenes after that you will probably never know but you did your part so you can sleep easy.
    Wrong door, buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    There is actually a marriage fraud unit within ICE. They are civilian (not law enforcement). We just hired a guy who used to do that. They get calls all the time and are always looking for work.
    Are you sure you aren't referring to CIS (Citizenship & Immigration Service)? They have a marriage fraud unit, since CIS is responsible for adjudicating, issuance of visa's and finally, approval for citizenship, but they're not LEO's. If they find evidence of criminality, they refer it to HSI (formerly ICE Investigations).

    If you were referring to HSI, then it must be a HSI/SAC/NYC thing, cause BIG has never seen or heard of such an animal within HSI. Not is his current office, his former office, nor any of the other 3 offices of which BIG has spent considerable time working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sexy View Post
    Are you sure you aren't referring to CIS (Citizenship & Immigration Service)? They have a marriage fraud unit, since CIS is responsible for adjudicating, issuance of visa's and finally, approval for citizenship, but they're not LEO's. If they find evidence of criminality, they refer it to HSI (formerly ICE Investigations).
    Yes I was referring to CSI. Our recent hire was a civilian investigator with CIS . Sorry for the mistake...I tend to lump all involved with immigration into the ICE category.
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    Allright guys, I contacted ICE and reported it. I've already done my share, I just hope they deem my accusations credible and proceed with an investigation. If they don't then they're the fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughlife View Post
    Allright guys, I contacted ICE and reported it. I've already done my share, I just hope they deem my accusations credible and proceed with an investigation. If they don't then they're the fools.
    This coming from the guy who thought it was alright to conveniently ignore reporting a federal offense until he found out it might cost him a job... seems like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    This coming from the guy who thought it was alright to conveniently ignore reporting a federal offense until he found out it might cost him a job... seems like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
    Well I wasn't going to take any chances. I'm certain I did what's best, regardless if I become a LEO one day or not. By the way I'm excited. I have an appointment with a recruiter from the National Guard on Monday!!!

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    So it was OK for you to be friends with an illegal alien up to the point that you found out he may be commiting marrage fraud?

    I agree with the pot calling the kettle black comment.
    Wrong door, buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BP348 View Post
    So it was OK for you to be friends with an illegal alien up to the point that you found out he may be commiting marrage fraud?

    I agree with the pot calling the kettle black comment.
    Well, I really don't know any spanish people that are legal residents or citizens. Most of them seem to be illegal/undocumented. I mean besides i have contact with the guy every day, since we work together. You guys are making me realize that I must fix many issues in my life before even considering becoming a LEO. I give thanks to all those that have commented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughlife View Post
    Well, I really don't know any spanish people that are legal residents or citizens. Most of them seem to be illegal/undocumented. I mean besides i have contact with the guy every day, since we work together. You guys are making me realize that I must fix many issues in my life before even considering becoming a LEO. I give thanks to all those that have commented.
    You know that the above is just throwing gas on the fire, right?

    Now you're telling us that not only do you know illegal alien(s) but you knowingly work with illegal aliens? I hate to bust your bubble but that's way more serious then your supposed and or suspected marriage fraud. I hope when you called your local ICE office to report the marriage fraud you reported that your employer knowingly employs illegal aliens.
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    Wrong door, buddy

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