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    Question After the pull over

    Ok, I'm gonna start by saying I appreciate what law enforcement officers who actually do protect the public! However, when I get pulled over for "speeding" 39 in a 35 but the bop said 49 at 0030 at night I have to think he was profiling me for a dui. And the reality is any cop can pull anyone over for anything!!! I'm a young (24 but can see if I look 18-22 to new people) white male that drives a very well maintained Tacoma with a perfect driving record, not to mention a Iraq and Afghan veteran. I've never been arrested for anything.

    Now... As I was driving home on my normal route home in RI from Newport to Bristol. About a 20min drive that Ive done hundreds of times. I get pulled by the most notorious department for dui's in the state. (look it up and you'll see this dept has the highest rate of dui's almost every year) Now the cop comes up and tells me I was doing 49 on the 35 highway.... a $200 ticket. BULLSPIT I know I was doing 39 and he was just looking for a hit or to fill his "pull over quota" for the night. So I've been drinking but not over my comfort to drive limit. The cop comes up asks the whole nine yards, "smells" the drinks, gives me a quick two sobriety tests and goes back to his car... Comes back and tells me I'm not drunk, but he's gonna issue me the ticket. So I put my info back, sit tight and then he comes over the loud mic "your free to go sir" which now I confused/ fell like the as$hole... whatever

    Here's my question...

    If I get pulled over on a "speeding" violation and then the cop issues a field sobriety test and I get let go, Do the police note on my record that I've been field tested or do they just really let me go with a so called "speeding warning"?

    Really my question is that even tho he let me drive home, is it possible that cops can have notes on vehicles or people? If I cop looked up my name would he see "possible dui catch" or something... or is my record still clean?

    The only reason I ask is when my buddy got arrested for possession of weed the cops (same dept) took my name down as a known associate which is f'd up in my opinion because i don't smoke but whatever. I'm just pissed because cops associate people with arrests.

    Please let me know what's up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtyKurt View Post
    Ok, I'm gonna start by saying I appreciate what law enforcement officers who actually do protect the public! However, when I get pulled over for "speeding" 39 in a 35 but the bop said 49 at 0030 at night I have to think he was profiling me for a dui. And the reality is any cop can pull anyone over for anything!!! I'm a young (24 but can see if I look 18-22 to new people) white male that drives a very well maintained Tacoma with a perfect driving record, not to mention a Iraq and Afghan veteran. I've never been arrested for anything.

    Now... As I was driving home on my normal route home in RI from Newport to Bristol. About a 20min drive that Ive done hundreds of times. I get pulled by the most notorious department for dui's in the state. (look it up and you'll see this dept has the highest rate of dui's almost every year) Now the cop comes up and tells me I was doing 49 on the 35 highway.... a $200 ticket. BULLSPIT I know I was doing 39 and he was just looking for a hit or to fill his "pull over quota" for the night. So I've been drinking but not over my comfort to drive limit. The cop comes up asks the whole nine yards, "smells" the drinks, gives me a quick two sobriety tests and goes back to his car... Comes back and tells me I'm not drunk, but he's gonna issue me the ticket. So I put my info back, sit tight and then he comes over the loud mic "your free to go sir" which now I confused/ fell like the as... whatever

    Here's my question...

    If I get pulled over on a "speeding" violation and then the cop issues a field sobriety test and I get let go, Do the police note on my record that I've been field tested or do they just really let me go with a so called "speeding warning"?

    Really my question is that even tho he let me drive home, is it possible that cops can have notes on vehicles or people? If I cop looked up my name would he see "possible dui catch" or something... or is my record still clean?

    The only reason I ask is when my buddy got arrested for possession of weed the cops (same dept) took my name down as a known associate which is f'd up in my opinion because i don't smoke but whatever. I'm just pissed because cops associate people with arrests.

    Please let me know what's up.
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    If you were driving 39 in a 35, you were speeding, and you could be stopped for that. The officer doesn't need to "enhance" the speed at all in order to make the stop.

    The burden of proof necessary for a traffic stop is "reasonable suspicion" of criminal activity. If the cop has Reasonable Suspicion to believe that you were speeding, then the stop is good. (In order to write a ticket for the speed, the officer needs a higher burden of proof, "Probable Cause," but this is not necessary for the stop in the first place.

    Once you are stopped, if the officer observes other factors that lead them to believe you might be intoxicated, they can run you through the SFST's. At the conclusion of their investigation, if the officer determines that he has probable cause to believe you were DWI, then you get arrested for it.

    I don't see anything wrong that the officer did in what you wrote. You act like having a high number of DWI arrests for a department is something to be ashamed of. DWI Enforcement is important. And you provide no evidence that they are charging people with DWI who are not actually intoxicated.

    On the contrary... They stopped you, tested you, realized that you were okay to drive, and let you go. This is exactly the way it should go.

    There is no database kept by law enforcement for people we stopped who were not drunk.

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    There will be a record of the stop if the cop called in your plate and driver's license information. How that may be utilized in the future is unknown.

    You got off with a warning. Don't sweat it.

    By your own admission, your buddy is a doper. So, you are an associate of his.

    I assume you were with this associate when they got busted? If not, how would your name be involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtyKurt View Post
    I'm just pissed because cops associate people with arrests.
    Read this again sometime in the future and you'll see how silly this statement is. Of COURSE we associate people with arrests, otherwise we would have no documentation of what happened. If we arrest someone out of a vehicle or home, we usually list everyone we contacted in the same vehicle or home.

    If you don't like being listed as an associate of a criminal, don't hang out with people committing criminal acts. If you don't like being stopped for speeding and testing for drunk driving, stop speeding and drinking before you drive.

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    Officers at night do use their LAWFUL authority and stop people for minor offenses ( like speeding a little) to look for a dui. I have done so many times. I don't always stop someone with the intent to ticket them but it is 100% LEGAL to make the stop that you described , much less the officer's version.

    In your case , you were speeding. You claim 4 over , the officer claims 14 over. Your speedo isn't calibrated , his is.

    Doesn't matter what you drive , what you look like , what branch of the military you were in ...anyone can be a DUI !!

    Notorious for DUI ? Almost sounds like you don't like them already ??!!

    Quotas are long gone , we are allowed to write as many as we want

    A lot of people drink to their " comfort limit " , unfortunately as the notorious PD can attest to , that can be over a .08% BAC.

    Perhaps the officer had a call to go to or he just changed his mind , regardless....you didn't get a ticket. Sounds like a winner to me.

    Their is no " note " or system to mark likely dui offenders. Officers go out , look for violations ( regardless of how minor they may seem to be ) and than LEGALLY use their authority to stop people. Thats how they are #1 for getting DRUNK DRIVERS ! Aren't you happy that they get a lot of DRUNK DRIVERS off of the road ??

    If you hang with drug users , you will be noted for that. That is not the information that we can get from running a plate out along the highway. It's back at the station. We associate people who hang with stupid people. It's part of our job. Note I didn't say arrest or anything else. Maybe you are in to something else. Maybe some day you'll be in court and you will state that you don't associate with drug users ??

    Are you proud of the fact that you associate with drug users ?

    Looks like the officer was doing his job but you are pissed because you got stopped and felt that you are one of the good people due to your backgrund and appearance. You don't like that officers use their authority to stop people for minor offenses to hunt for DUI's. Would you rather that they only go after DUI's who blatantly drive all over the road ?

    People that drive drunk do so from ALL backgrounds , income levels , branches of the military and social status. Some people also drive without a license , insurance , with warrants etc. ALL of which I have found on traffic stops for " stupid little things".

    Tim McVeigh was stopped for no license plate showing.

    The Son-of-Sam serial killer was caught due to parking tickets.

    If you REALLY support the police then you would realize that these officers were doing a good job using their lawful authority. They determined that you weren't dui , didn't give you a ticket and you went on your way. Then they went back to looking for and finding a DUI.
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    After the pull over
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    Quote Originally Posted by pac201 View Post
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    Ain't that the truth. For a short time, someone put out some "Support Portland Police". Pretty soon every crook in town had one on their cars. It became a signal to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtyKurt View Post
    Ok, I'm gonna start by saying I appreciate what law enforcement officers who actually do protect the public! However, when I get pulled over for "speeding" 39 in a 35 but the bop said 49 at 0030 at night I have to think he was profiling me for a dui.
    I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure that's our job.

    And the reality is any cop can pull anyone over for anything!!! I'm a young (24 but can see if I look 18-22 to new people) white male that drives a very well maintained Tacoma with a perfect driving record, not to mention a Iraq and Afghan veteran. I've never been arrested for anything.
    Since when do people come out of the womb with a criminal record? I'm pretty sure everyone has had their first at some time or another.

    Now... As I was driving home on my normal route home in RI from Newport to Bristol. About a 20min drive that Ive done hundreds of times. I get pulled by the most notorious department for dui's in the state. (look it up and you'll see this dept has the highest rate of dui's almost every year) Now the cop comes up and tells me I was doing 49 on the 35 highway.... a $200 ticket. BULLSPIT I know I was doing 39 and he was just looking for a hit or to fill his "pull over quota" for the night. So I've been drinking but not over my comfort to drive limit. The cop comes up asks the whole nine yards, "smells" the drinks, gives me a quick two sobriety tests and goes back to his car... Comes back and tells me I'm not drunk, but he's gonna issue me the ticket. So I put my info back, sit tight and then he comes over the loud mic "your free to go sir" which now I confused/ fell like the as... whatever

    Here's my question...

    If I get pulled over on a "speeding" violation and then the cop issues a field sobriety test and I get let go, Do the police note on my record that I've been field tested or do they just really let me go with a so called "speeding warning"?

    Really my question is that even tho he let me drive home, is it possible that cops can have notes on vehicles or people? If I cop looked up my name would he see "possible dui catch" or something... or is my record still clean?
    Just a warning. I consider EVERY driver a potential DUI regardless of time, vehicle, etc. I don't need a special note to alert me.


    The only reason I ask is when my buddy got arrested for possession of weed the cops (same dept) took my name down as a known associate which is f'd up in my opinion because i don't smoke but whatever. I'm just pissed because cops associate people with arrests.
    I document everyone I talk to from a barking dog complaint to a felony arrest. Doesn't necessarily put them in my "radar."

    Please let me know what's up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pac201 View Post
    After the pull over
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    I have found that when people preface a statement like this, they usually don't...
    Yep because their opinion of protecting the public is purely subjective.
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    I'm a young (24 but can see if I look 18-22 to new people) white male that drives a very well maintained Tacoma with a perfect driving record, not to mention a Iraq and Afghan veteran
    What's that got to do with anything? A huge majority of the population commits DUIs in case you haven't read the news lately. Some examples include Lindsey Lohan, St. Louis Ram's player convicted of manslaughter by intoxication, and a multitude of others. Your veteran status, vehicle, and "looks" we could care less about. In 2008, an average of 32 people per day died from an alcohol related crash. If I can smell alcohol on you, you're coming out of the vehicle and ran through the tests. I don't care if you're the pope.

    BULLSPIT I know I was doing 39 and he was just looking for a hit or to fill his "pull over quota" for the night
    Where did you pull 39 from? Whether 39 or 55, it's still over the posted 35. You're still guilty of speeding.

    So I've been drinking but not over my comfort to drive limit.
    WTH is your "comfort to drive" limit? It's amazing to me that you can tell when you're still not too impaired to drive and/or below the .08% per se limit. I would bet money, especially as a member of the military, that you've jumped behind the wheel after having too much to drink. So don't come here playin Mr. Perfect. I would recommend that you don't drink at all if you plan on driving.

    The only reason I ask is when my buddy got arrested for possession of weed the cops (same dept) took my name down as a known associate which is f'd up in my opinion because i don't smoke but whatever
    So I guess it's ok to hang out with buds who smoke dope. Smart play on your part.

    "I respect cops, BUT they harass me because I had been drinking and driving and they treated me wrong because I was listed as an associate when hanging out with some dope smokers."

    Do you see how silly that sounds?

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