Officer with no hat

**anjel** · 10-12-10 09:15 AM

I am not sure if this is just a joke or a law, but I have heard if an office pulls you he/she has to have hat while giving you ticket. I was pulled by a police man in the state of MD on one of the highways. He acted some how I had never seen. He didn't come really forward so we could see his face, he didn't have his hat on also. I was trying to give way to him to pass and he give me ticket for changing lane too fast! I was wondering if this is really a law and I could use this in court ?

**retdetsgt** · 10-12-10 09:17 AM

I think it has merit.

**Switchback** · 10-12-10 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by anjel

I am not sure if this is just a joke or a law, but I have heard if an office pulls you he/she has to have hat while giving you ticket. I was pulled by a police man in the state of MD on one of the highways. He acted some how I had never seen. He didn't come really forward so we could see his face, he didn't have his hat on also. I was trying to give way to him to pass and he give me ticket for changing lane too fast! I was wondering if this is really a law and I could use this in court ?

Call this a hunch:

I am betting, since you took the time to look around the site and notice such courtesies as making an INTRODUCTION before so rudely asking your self-serving question, that you surely did a search on such an earth-shattering question.

If a search, and common courtesies, are beyond your abilities, bringing up the officer not having his hat will surely get you what you deserve. Afterall, who cares if you are guilty of hazardous driving, the hat is what matters and the court knows this!

**Kimble** · 10-12-10 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by anjel

I am not sure if this is just a joke or a law, but I have heard if an office pulls you he/she has to have hat while giving you ticket. I was pulled by a police man in the state of MD on one of the highways. He acted some how I had never seen. He didn't come really forward so we could see his face, he didn't have his hat on also. I was trying to give way to him to pass and he give me ticket for changing lane too fast! I was wondering if this is really a law and I could use this in court ?

Absolutely bring this up in court, the judge by law will dismiss this ticket if he wasn't wearing his hat.

**Switchback** · 10-12-10 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Kimble

Absolutely bring this up in court, the judge by law will dismiss this ticket if he wasn't wearing his hat.

Is the judge required to wear his wig? I always get confused about that part.

**retdetsgt** · 10-12-10 09:46 AM

It's also permissible to make a left turn where it says "No Left Turn" as long as you don't signal.

**Curt581** · 10-12-10 10:05 AM

The infamous "Hat Defense".... cops hate that.

Originally Posted by Switchback

Is the judge required to wear his wig? I always get confused about that part.

The cop is required to wear his hat, the judge is required to wear his wig when wearing his robe, or the charge is automatically dismissed.

**pac201** · 10-12-10 11:15 AM

I told you guys, once this gets out we're screwed...

**Outshined** · 10-12-10 11:25 AM

I believe the Magistrate will also fine the offending officer.

**Citicop** · 10-12-10 12:38 PM

*sigh*

In some departments, there are strict uniform requirements that specify that an officer must wear his hat anytime he is out of his vehicle. Officers can get in trouble with their bosses (in these departments) if they are not wearing their hats and they get caught.

Over time, people found this out, and started the rumor that anything an officer did without his hat did not count; this is not true.

If the officer's department requires him to wear his hat at all times, then he could get in trouble with his boss if you tell the department, but it will have no effect at all on your ticket in court.

-Citicop.

**mcsap** · 10-12-10 01:28 PM

I LEARNED my lesson the first time the judge tossed a ticket of mine simply because I didn't have the " department mandated headgear properly attached to my head".

I didn't make that mistake a second time.

**fatboyjim154** · 10-12-10 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Switchback

Is the judge required to wear his wig? I always get confused about that part.

Only if it is a merkin!

**manahmanah** · 10-12-10 03:42 PM

Cops that don't wear their hats give the rest of us a bad name.

**Creeker** · 10-13-10 11:37 PM

...and don't forget the whistle of Authority...

We really need to stop feeding the monkeys. This is how the bg's know about body armour.

**Fury** · 10-14-10 11:35 AM

Why do you think he didn't walk up to your window so you could see him clearly? It is probably because he forgot his hat and was trying to keep you from seeing it. If you look back into the law books, it is actually a violation of your fourth amendment rights. Taken from a recent ruling: "A Police Officer cannot unlawfully detain any person or persons of their liberty without first properly assuring that person knows, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they are being detained by a Police Officer. A Police Officer's identity is validated by the uniform they wear, specifically, their hat, which has a secondary badge on the front. Without this, a violator has no way of knowing if the Officer is a certified Police Officer, or a training cadet. Thus, all Police Officers shall, at all times, wear a hat which clearly identifies them as an Officer prior to issuing a citation or making a legal arrest." F.R.C. ~2135.315

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