Got stopped by PD today. Im also an applicant for the same PD

[retdetsgt]

Yeah, I have one of these little knives with
a clip. But mine is thumb assist.
And the clip thingy sticks out of my jeans pocket
on my day off.

Same here. I've been carrying a pocket knife since I was about 8 years old. Was even able to take it to school. And I carry the thumb assist with a clip too. In fact, I see people walking around with them all the time around here. I never got excited about that.

The only time I'm without it is when I'm on a commercial airplane because someone thinks I might hijack a plane with it.

[Piggy]

Same here. I've been carrying a pocket knife since I was about 8 years old. Was even able to take it to school. And I carry the thumb assist with a clip too. In fact, I see people walking around with them all the time around here. I never got excited about that.

The only time I'm without it is when I'm on a commercial airplane because someone thinks I might hijack a plane with it.

That or a pair of nail clippers. Are they still taking those away?

I really wonder if there is some sort of exemption in the law for restaurants. If I'm eating in New York and I start cutting my steak with a sharp knife, am I committing a crime by having my knife exposed? I also wonder what the difference is between having a knife partially exposed and not exposed. If the purpose of the law is to reduce violence, will I be any less violent by having a knife in my pocket without a clip?

[Joeyd6]

This happened in NYC

The knife I had was a spring assisted knife. However, according to NYS laws, it "can" be called a gravity knife (which is illegal) due to the vague writing of the law.

Im worried that my name got called in with the officer saying "possession of a gravity knife," and that this incident will be on a computer somewhere and will somehow be available for my investigator to see and question me about. Could this happen?

NYS Law is not vague. It is clear. Under NYS penal Law, section 265, your knife is clearly illegal. Under NYC code, depending on blade length there may be an additional charge.

So what we have here is :
1) A person applying to be a police officer.......
2) KNOWINGLY carrying a weapon........
3) which under NYS law is 100% ILLEGAL.........

Dumb. Prior to April of 2010, no record would have been generated, but as a result of the ACLU and CCRB, if the cops played by the rules, a NYPD record was generated. It is callled a Stop/Question/Frisk Card, which willl have all your info on it. Additionally, if she had you checked for wants and warrants, your NCIC file will show the inquiry. APD BI's are required to check the agencies making inquiries for records. Once you BI Sees that, and runs your info in the computer, he/she will see you were stopped/questioned/had a knife and were warned.

Stop carrying an illegal weapon (carry a legal knife you need one) and notify the BI so there will be no suprise/nobody is hiding anything. You will be fine with honesty. It is a suprise that will slow the application down.

[Joeyd6]

New York State knife law restrict certain knife types statewide. They can be found under NYS Penal Law, section 265.

In NY City, there are two additional restrictions under the NYC administrative code: 1) You can't be in posession of a knife blade over 4" and 2) You can't carry any knife in public view (meaning in public, not restaurants). Having a clip of any knife exposed is a violation. A leather sheath is fine, assuminig it covers the blade and handle completely.

LEOS are exempt as we by law are allowed to carry "weapons" of any kind.

[MrTee805]

I guess this is why I live in God's country.
I wouldnt want to live somewhere that this is
considered Law Enforcement work.

Yeah, I have one of these little knives with
a clip. But mine is thumb assist.
And the clip thingy sticks out of my jeans pocket
on my day off.

I wouldn't mind working in God's Counrty. Unfortunately, in NYC people cannot be trusted with such things as simple as pocket and gravity knives (especially kids). My pct alone has 76 shootings, 30 something stabbings, and 26 homicides and counting. New Hamphire has an open carry law right? Does that count as God's Country?

[mcsap]

PA ( but not Philly) is open carry.

[retdetsgt]

My pct alone has 76 shootings, 30 something stabbings, and 26 homicides and counting.

So, would you say the laws are successful????

With the exception of a few DV's, I can't recall a single violent crime involving a gun where the gun was purchased from a legitimate source. Quite a few come back stolen and no doubt many more are, but the original owner didn't have the gun's serial number when he reported the theft.

The bad guys out here are going to carry weapons whether we have laws against it or not. They're crooks by definition.

[MrTee805]

I don't know. What I do know is that if I had not run into several of my arrestees when I did, they intended on harming someone in the very near future with the weapons found on them. I think that if we had open carry laws, violent crime would be almost nonexistent. The way things stand, the good guy can't legally defend himself against the thug with the midnight special he has in his backpocket. THAT is a crime.

So, would you say the laws are successful????

With the exception of a few DV's, I can't recall a single violent crime involving a gun where the gun was purchased from a legitimate source. Quite a few come back stolen and no doubt many more are, but the original owner didn't have the gun's serial number when he reported the theft.

The bad guys out here are going to carry weapons whether we have laws against it or not. They're crooks by definition.