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    Emergency lighting

    I am a volunteer firefighter and have just recently put 3 forward facing blue, 2 forward facing amber, and 2 rear facing red lights on my vehicle.. I was wondering if this is within code?

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    What state? It's illegal to do that for any POV's in Oregon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laguangranch View Post
    I am a volunteer firefighter and have just recently put 3 forward facing blue, 2 forward facing amber, and 2 rear facing red lights on my vehicle.. I was wondering if this is within code?
    You have to give the state you live in. No good in PA. Only police vehicles can have a red and blue combo.
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    Oh yes, sorry.. I live in Texas.

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    From what I've read(may be out of date..) Blue/white forward facing is for VFF, and if you're going to run lights you are required to have a siren.. Lights must be seen 360'.. And all you need is an okay from the chief? Can anyone back this up please? Lights and siren were a pain to install and would hate to remove them..

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    You installed the lights before you checked on the law? Seems like poor planning. Is there no one from your fire department who can answer this? What do all the other VFF's have?

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    I installed them, because I read so many times it was okay, I went with it.. And there aren't many VFF's for this county.. 4-7 maybe?

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    What are you going to do if the lights are not legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laguangranch View Post
    I installed them, because I read so many times it was okay, I went with it.. And there aren't many VFF's for this county.. 4-7 maybe?
    Do you respond to scenes in your personal vehicle, and does your vol. department allow (or better yet, require) you to do so in your personal vehicle?

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    They allow them.. But they didn't specify what color... And no, haven't responded to a scene yet.. Yet

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    Anyone here live in texas that has a POV? I text chacha(yes, I'm that desperate..) And was told only red and white

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    Applicable Texas Law.
    § 546.004. EXCEPTIONS TO SIGNAL REQUIREMENT. (a) A
    volunteer fire fighter who operates a private vehicle as an
    authorized emergency vehicle may engage in conduct permitted by
    Section 546.001 only when the fire fighter is using visual signals
    meeting the pertinent requirements of Sections 547.305 and 547.702.

    § 547.305. RESTRICTIONS ON USE OF LIGHTS. (a) A motor
    vehicle lamp or illuminating device, other than a headlamp,
    spotlamp, auxiliary lamp, turn signal lamp, or emergency vehicle or
    school bus warning lamp, that projects a beam with an intensity
    brighter than 300 candlepower shall be directed so that no part of
    the high-intensity portion of the beam strikes the roadway at a
    distance of more than 75 feet from the vehicle.
    (b) Except as expressly authorized by law, a person may not
    operate or move equipment or a vehicle, other than a police vehicle,
    with a lamp or device that displays a red light visible from
    directly in front of the center of the equipment or vehicle.
    (c) A person may not operate a motor vehicle equipped with a
    red, white, or blue beacon, flashing, or alternating light unless
    the equipment is:
    (1) used as specifically authorized by this chapter;
    or
    (2) a running lamp, headlamp, taillamp, backup lamp,
    or turn signal lamp that is used as authorized by law.
    (d) A vehicle may be equipped with alternately flashing
    lighting equipment described by Section 547.701 or 547.702 only if
    the vehicle is:
    (1) a school bus;
    (2) an authorized emergency vehicle;
    (3) a church bus that has the words "church bus"
    printed on the front and rear of the bus so as to be clearly
    discernable to other vehicle operators;
    (4) a tow truck while under the direction of a law
    enforcement officer at the scene of an accident or while hooking up
    to a disabled vehicle on a roadway; or
    (5) a tow truck with a mounted light bar which has turn
    signals and stop lamps in addition to those required by Sections
    547.322, 547.323, and 547.324, Transportation Code.
    (e) A person may not operate highway maintenance or service
    equipment, including snow-removal equipment, that is not equipped
    with lamps or that does not display lighted lamps as required by the
    standards and specifications adopted by the Texas Department of
    Transportation.
    (f) In this section "tow truck" means a motor vehicle or
    mechanical device that is adapted or used to tow, winch, or move a
    disabled vehicle.

    Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995. Amended
    by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 380, § 1, eff. July 1, 1999.


    § 547.702. ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
    AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES. (a) An authorized emergency
    vehicle may be equipped with a siren, exhaust whistle, or bell:
    (1) of a type approved by the department; and
    (2) that emits a sound audible under normal conditions
    at a distance of at least 500 feet.
    (b) The operator of an authorized emergency vehicle shall
    use the siren, whistle, or bell when necessary to warn other vehicle
    operators or pedestrians of the approach of the emergency vehicle.
    (c) Except as provided by this section, an authorized
    emergency vehicle shall be equipped with signal lamps that:
    (1) are mounted as high and as widely spaced laterally
    as practicable;
    (2) display four alternately flashing red lights, two
    located on the front at the same level and two located on the rear at
    the same level; and
    (3) emit a light visible at a distance of 500 feet in
    normal sunlight.
    (d) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter
    responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may, but is not
    required to, be equipped with signal lamps that comply with the
    requirements of Subsection (c).
    (e) A private vehicle operated by a volunteer firefighter
    responding to a fire alarm or a medical emergency may be equipped
    with a signal lamp that is temporarily attached to the vehicle roof
    and flashes a red light visible at a distance of at least 500 feet in
    normal sunlight.
    (f) A police vehicle may, but is not required to, be
    equipped with signal lamps that comply with Subsection (c).

    Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
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    So... Basically I can use red and blue flashing lights, as wide as the vehicle, has to be seen from a certain distance.. And a siren that can be heard from a certain distance..? What I am confused about is the lights.. Blue and red are okay if you are okayed by a sheriff, or some other authority figure?

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    From what I read, blue is not allowed for volunteer firefighters, only red. Also, when it says the light must be "of a type approved by the department", it means the department you volunteer for.
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