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    What is the chance that the Mexican problems will cross the border, and how could--

    What is the chance that the Mexican gang problems will cross the border, and how could our Country deal with the type of crime that is now terrorizing the Mexican people?

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    They are already here and have been for some time.

    The only reason you don't see the same violence here as we do in Mexico is because the added law enforcement and media attention would make it harder for them to move people, guns, money, and narcotics across the border and to their final destinations all across the United States.

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    I'll go one step further and correct your use of the word gang.

    These are not street gangs, these are criminal organizations on par with the mafia, only more violent. The cartels are major international criminal organizations with revenues above or equal to some of the wealthiest companies in the world.

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    Our border has become a money and power issue. It has gone to the point that doing nothing, or ignoring it, is no longer an option. It was in our face, now it is in our lap.

    Would you prefer lead or silver?

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    Q: What are the "chances" the violence will spill over?

    A: 100%... in fact, it already has been spilling over and it's going to get worse.

    Q: How could our country deal with the type of crime happening in Mexico?

    A: We elect in new candidates to Congress and the Presidency. People who'll show true leadership, not just pander to potential voting blocks. People who'll take seriously the oath they swear to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic... then we defend the border... for real.

    We use UAVs with Hellfire missles, tanks, APCs, radar planes, helicopter gunships with infared systems, Navy littoral combat ships with sonar and subs off the coast of San Diego and the Baja penninsula. We smart-bomb a few Cartel honcho's haciendas... with or without the Mexican government's approval. We turn the CIA loose on them, instead of single-focus concentrating on the Middle East to the exclusion of all else. We STOP screwing around.

    Bascially, we treat the Cartels like the threat to National Security they truly are.

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    I just heard that the Cartels have put a hit out of an Arizona Sheriff. (They put a million dollar price on his head.)

    Is this possible, and if so, what should be done about it?

    Michael

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    As long as lawyers make all the decisions for the US govt, exactly nothing will be done. They will hang some paper on the bad guys who will surely appreciate the extra surface area that long bonded legal paper provides - when they wipe their butts with it. The DC lawyers will find a "safe" outlet for their impotence, like blame a tea party or the NRA.

    We wouldnt have to deal with this crap if the military leadership and cIA are given the green light. Certain pre-emption and overwheling force applied at the source of the problem, plrovides fear as the limiting factor for antisocial behavior. Respect, diplomacy, and laws have no place. The best way to deterrence is to kill them in their homes, in their beds, for that is what they do to us if we allow it. The Russians and Israelis understand this concept, the certainty of swift lethal retaliation delivers the message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    ...A: We elect in new candidates to Congress and the Presidency. People who'll show true leadership, not just pander to potential voting blocks. People who'll take seriously the oath they swear to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic... then we defend the border... for real.

    We use UAVs with Hellfire missles, tanks, APCs, radar planes, helicopter gunships with infared systems, Navy littoral combat ships with sonar and subs off the coast of San Diego and the Baja penninsula. We smart-bomb a few Cartel honcho's haciendas... with or without the Mexican government's approval. We turn the CIA loose on them, instead of single-focus concentrating on the Middle East to the exclusion of all else. We STOP screwing around.

    Bascially, we treat the Cartels like the threat to National Security they truly are.
    Damned intelligent answer right there...
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    Let me put it to you guys this way....we found suspected Zeta members running around in my area.

    So we should start replacing "potential" with "inevitable..."
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    Mexican Cartel related violence has already been occurring here for last five years or so.
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