Things movies always get wrong

[retdetsgt]

There is a segment of society who don't want to put out the effort to work and find it easier to commit crimes to get money. Although a lot of criminals use drugs, most aren't addicts. Using drugs is just an avocation.

[screenwriter6]

There it is again. "Crippling marijuana addiction".

It doesn't have to be a crippling addiction. It can be any reason, or none at all. People do armed home invasions for kicks. They shoot people for no reason. Armed robbers have shot store clerks AFTER the clerk gave them the money.

You're looking for reason and logic to motivations where there often is none. It's not always about dope or addictions or sexual deviations or money or anything else. Sometimes there is no reason, no 'because'... they just did it.

I'm fully aware of that concept. Why are you constantly changing the scenario then accusing me of ignorance? I've researched many serial killers, cult leaders, and all manner of murdering psychos that have managed to gain control of countries. I know all about human debauchery, from the Bronze bull, to the Inquisition to the Rape of Nanjing. In addition I have a very vivid and persistent imagination. So when people say "you can't imagine." they're probably wrong.

There is a segment of society who don't want to put out the effort to work and find it easier to commit crimes to get money. Although a lot of criminals use drugs, most aren't addicts. Using drugs is just an avocation.

Which is why I don't buy the burglar's story.

[Curt581]

I'm fully aware of that concept. Why are you constantly changing the scenario then accusing me of ignorance?

I threw a bunch of different scenarios out because my point was the actual crime itself is irrelevant. I was trying to point out the disconnect between the act and the motivation behind it (or lack thereof).

I've researched many serial killers, cult leaders, and all manner of murdering psychos that have managed to gain control of countries. I know all about human debauchery, from the Bronze bull, to the Inquisition to the Rape of Nanjing. In addition I have a very vivid and persistent imagination.

Then why is it so difficult to imagine that someone would burglarize a house to get weed money?

Hell, people have done it for alot less reason than that.

So when people say "you can't imagine." they're probably wrong.

Soooo... what do you need us for?

[retdetsgt]

There it is again. "Crippling marijuana addiction".

It doesn't have to be a crippling addiction. It can be any reason, or none at all. People do armed home invasions for kicks. They shoot people for no reason. Armed robbers have shot store clerks AFTER the clerk gave them the money.

You're looking for reason and logic to motivations where there often is none. It's not always about dope or addictions or sexual deviations or money or anything else. Sometimes there is no reason, no 'because'... they just did it.

+1

People commit crimes for money for drugs. People commit crimes because it's easier than actually working. People commit crimes for the same reason some of us became cops, the adrenaline rush. People commit crimes because they have no moral fiber (for whatever reason). People commit crimes because they like to prey on people weaker than themselves to boost their own ego. People commit crimes for so many different reasons that you can't pigeon hole them.

The only exception is sex crimes, I know of only two reasons for those. Clinical pedophilia and power.

As a side note, most marijuana addicts don't have the drive to go burglarize houses. Shoplifting is usually as active as they want to get.

[milkcartonkid]

i love it in movies when the cops let bad guys go cuz they have been working undercover with them and somehow feel that they "owe" them a chance to get away. like in "Point Break" and "Fast and Furious" what is up with that? you have been risking your life as a uc then after you arrest the s**theads you have been chasing, you release the guy.

[retdetsgt]

i love it in movies when the cops let bad guys go cuz they have been working undercover with them and somehow feel that they "owe" them a chance to get away.

That's funny because when I was a young cop, I worked completely UC buying heroin for over 6 months. I was told by the guys making the arrests on the warrants that several dealers told them they couldn't believe I was a cop. One guy even said, "He couldn't have been a cop, he was my best friend in the world!"

I guess I must have been a real heartbreaker!

[screenwriter6]

I threw a bunch of different scenarios out because my point was the actual crime itself is irrelevant. I was trying to point out the disconnect between the act and the motivation behind it (or lack thereof).



Then why is it so difficult to imagine that someone would burglarize a house to get weed money?

Hell, people have done it for alot less reason than that.

I already said its possible. I just find it less likely for weed addiction to be the sole motivation. Weed is cheap and its addiction potential is low compared to other elicit substances. I could see it as a component pretty easily. The burglar's lazy so he robs for rent, food and weed. The burglar does it for kicks, and happens to like pot.

However it is an easy scape goat if a criminal wants to turn his burglary into a sob story.

When I said "Robbing houses to pay for weed, really" I was essentially trying to say that I wouldn't buy the story for a second. Even if it is possible.

Sort of like if a burglar claimed he was sleep walking. Can a somnambulist rob houses, sure. But I'm not gonna buy the guy's story outright

Soooo... what do you need us for?

Facts on which to base my imaginings.

[screenwriter6]

+1

As a side note, most marijuana addicts don't have the drive to go burglarize houses. Shoplifting is usually as active as they want to get.

A pot head ripping off some free munchies.

Now that wouldn't surprise me in the least.

i love it in movies when the cops let bad guys go cuz they have been working undercover with them and somehow feel that they "owe" them a chance to get away. like in "Point Break" and "Fast and Furious" what is up with that? you have been risking your life as a uc then after you arrest the s**theads you have been chasing, you release the guy.

Don't forget Reservoir Dogs.

I don't quite get why he fesses up at the end.

One guy even said, "He couldn't have been a cop, he was my best friend in the world!"

That is tragically pathetic.

[missouricop]

I my self always enjoy the comments the cops always come up with while arresting or fighting chasing whatever the case may be I'm lucky to get "stop police" one reason being that if we say to much or sound (rude) and others hear us "We don't set a profesional image." and we should have the professionalizm to not tell Johny Dirtbag to sit the F down and shut your mouth.

Again that may be just me or just here.

[Switchback]

I my self always enjoy the comments the cops always come up with while arresting or fighting chasing whatever the case may be I'm lucky to get "stop police" one reason being that if we say to much or sound (rude) and others hear us "We don't set a profesional image." and we should have the professionalizm to not tell Johny Dirtbag to sit the F down and shut your mouth.

Again that may be just me or just here.

Uh... yeah... we aren't really held to such standards.

[Cat_Doc]

I my self always enjoy the comments the cops always come up with while arresting or fighting chasing whatever the case may be I'm lucky to get "stop police" one reason being that if we say to much or sound (rude) and others hear us "We don't set a profesional image." and we should have the professionalizm to not tell Johny Dirtbag to sit the F down and shut your mouth.

Again that may be just me or just here.

It depends on the circumstances and the audience. With some dirtbags, it is being bilingual and you are simply speaking a language they understand. You just need to articulate your choice of preparatory commands to garner comprehension and compliance.

I had an outstanding group of street warriors working Graveyards with me who were extremely effective and colorful in gaining compliance and respect from street urchins running around when the air is black. Imagine an entire squad behind an enclosure that read, “In Case of Emergency Break Glass.” These guys could be scary.

But, when the once a year mandatory shift rotation put us on day shift, I was kept extremely busy the first few weeks “counseling” a few of them on the proper terminology to utilize with the new environment of clientele.

[Safety Steve]

[QUOTE=retdetsgt;1076862]That's funny because when I was a young cop, I worked completely UC buying heroin for over 6 months. I was told by the guys making the arrests on the warrants that several dealers told them they couldn't believe I was a cop. One guy even said, "He couldn't have been a cop, he was my best friend in the world!"

, I love it!

Have you announced that your running for Sheriff yet?

Be Safe.

[screenwriter6]

Since many of you seem to abhor doughnuts. What's the real life favored food of law enforcement?

[Safety Steve]

Since many of you seem to abhor doughnuts. What's the real life favored food of law enforcement?

I don't abhor doughnuts. I like them so much that I think it is a true sign of LE!

Be Safe.

[greg72982]

Since many of you seem to abhor doughnuts. What's the real life favored food of law enforcement?

We are not robots, we are people too. We like all different types of foods just like real humans do.