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    Quote Originally Posted by alexiskking View Post
    so one last post to clarify something, I did NOT create this question, perhaps y professor did, however i can list a few books that have stated the exact words relating to the "subculture" and the "6 core beliefs", whether those books are outdated or not, they obviously have been published, and if it is that derogatory and insulting as some may perceive it to be, take it up with the author not a student...

    Policing: today and tomorrow, written by Michael Birzer and Cliff Roberson...(2007)

    Policing in America: Methods, issues and challenges, written by Kenneth Peak, 4th Edition, (2003)

    these are just two books that are required reading for me, and both have the same info regarding my original question...

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    Having both a bachelors and masters in sociology, I can attest that a lot of books are written and taken as truth by people who have never left the safety of academia. My area of study in the 70's was on poverty in America. At that time, I was working every night in the poorest area of my fairly large city and dealing with poverty on a daily basis. My professors, who deemed themselves experts hadn't actually talked to a poor person in decades.

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexiskking View Post
    Apparently being new to this website and askng a question that I did not understand and thinking that officers would be able to assist me in hopefully gaining a better understanding of the above statements that I originally posted (btw which are not my thoughts, are my instructors) I guess I should expect to get crucified by responses...again I apologize if my instructor and my education and asking the questions have offended anyone, however, how a I suppose to learn something that I don not have any direct experience or "true" knowledge of without asking those who do have the specific knowledge I am looking for...thats just my thought, and if I am wrong for wanting to learn, or being required to complete a project through school, I guess Ill be going to hell...

    and btw, simply because one is suppose to be an educator, and has a certain curriculum he or she has to follow, does NOT mean that their students share the same beliefs...
    Quote Originally Posted by alexiskking View Post
    Id like to add that I AM appreciative of those who took the time to give a meaningful response and actually explained their beliefs and thoughts on what the supposed "core beliefs" are or are not. Thank you again for the help and knowledge you have provided...
    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    Having both a bachelors and masters in sociology, I can attest that a lot of books are written and taken as truth by people who have never left the safety of academia. My area of study in the 70's was on poverty in America. At that time, I was working every night in the poorest area of my fairly large city and dealing with poverty on a daily basis. My professors, who deemed themselves experts hadn't actually talked to a poor person in decades.

    If you want to learn how cops think, go on a number of ride alongs with police in your area and talk to them.
    Hopefully, you were able to receive the information you needed, since you received a wide variety of thoughts and opinions

    I believe that the last reply by retdetsgt is great advice, and a good way to end the thread
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