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    Paperwork a thing of the past

    I imagine in vehicle data varies greatly by department, but as a whole is paperwork (vehicle owner), getting phased out by what's available by the mobile terminals?

    Only ask out of curiosity of a recent incident. Officer had to pull a scene from something that occurred while vehicle was in motion, only had to confirm with me verbally. Lic./Reg./Ins., Not required, only verbal confirmation by tags.

    Now this was no violation on my part or anyone else present involved.

    I do imagine this would also vary greatly depending on the individual, the vehicle in question, and anything along those lines correct?

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    Paperwork a thing of the past?

    Phased out by computers or mobile data?

    Hahahahahahahaha... no.

    That's what they told us back in 1992ish, when they put all those 486s in Booking. Hasn't happened yet. If anything, the paper quagmire has gotten deeper. There's just more typing involved instead of hand-writing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    If anything, the paper quagmire has gotten deeper. There's just more typing involved instead of hand-writing it.
    This is what I've seen in 3 separate agencies I've worked, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basher52 View Post
    ROFLMAO....Not in the NYPD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post

    That's what they told us back in 1992ish, when they put all those 486s in Booking. Hasn't happened yet. If anything, the paper quagmire has gotten deeper. There's just more typing involved instead of hand-writing it.
    That's about the time they told us we'd be responding to calls wearing personal jetpacks too, wasn't it?
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    The paper work isn't that bad actually.
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    Becoming more computer orientated was supposed to cut down on paper. ITs increased it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawduck View Post
    The paper work isn't that bad actually.
    I never thought it was that bad either.... The better job I did on the paperwork, the easier it was if it went to court. Sometimes it even lead to a guilty plea.
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    I think the OP is asking if hard copy registration, insurance, driver's license is being phased out because of data available via MDT's.

    The answer (if I am correct in my interpretation of a poorly worded post): No. You will always have to provide the hard copies upon demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Doc View Post

    The answer (if I am correct in my interpretation of a poorly worded post): No. You will always have to provide the hard copies upon demand.
    You're right, I misread it too.

    Personally, I wouldn't want to give up my hard copies. That way I know everything is up to date.

    I still wish we would have gotten the jetpacks though.
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    I still wish we would have gotten the jetpacks though.
    Jetpacks and "Star Trek" stun lasers!

    I continue to be amazed and frustrated that there is actually more paperwork and redundancy now than there was back when I handwrote my offense reports with a ballpoint; black ink only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Doc View Post
    I continue to be amazed and frustrated that there is actually more paperwork and redundancy now than there was back when I handwrote my offense reports with a ballpoint; black ink only.
    Stats are becoming more important to office drones, I suspect. Before I left, all the reports were revamped for easier data entry and asking things no one ever cared about before.

    Real cops have to be out there working to create fodder for the non participants to feed off of and justify their existence.
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Doc View Post
    Jetpacks and "Star Trek" stun lasers!
    No to the jetpacks. I'd need a 10 inch thick Nerf suit.

    No to the stun lasers.

    Yes to disintegration rays. No body, no evidence, no paperwork. Nothing but a small burn smudge on the pavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post

    Yes to disintegration rays. No body, no evidence, no paperwork. Nothing but a small burn smudge on the pavement.

    But the EPA would have to do a study to see what effect the little puff of smoke will have on the clean air index.
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