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    Drinking in Wisconsin

    Good Day all,
    I have a few questions about Wisconsin drinking laws.
    1) is it ok for a child to have a drink in a bar as long if its ok with the bar tender and parents are with the child.
    2) I have heard a under 21 aldult can drink with husband or wife thats over the age of 21
    3) I have also heard the Wisconsin is the only state where your first time drunk drinking arrest is not called a crime

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    Seriously??????? This isa joke right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Dat View Post
    Seriously??????? This isa joke right?
    Unfortunately, no. He's serious. That's all anybody wants to do in Wisconsin is drink. No, I shouldn't even say "drink"... I should say "get drunk".

    Sloppy, piss-your-pants, falling down, sh**-faced drunk.

    The alcohol-soaked culture is our single claim to fame. Some months ago, a local newspaper printed a series of articles with statistics about Wisconsin's astonishingly high propensity for binge drinking, juvenile alcohol consumption, drunk driving, and the unbelievably high fatality rates for each category.

    The local reaction? Woooo Hooo! We're Number One! We're Number One!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    Unfortunately, no. He's serious. That's all anybody wants to do in Wisconsin is drink. No, I shouldn't even say "drink"... I should say "get drunk".

    Sloppy, piss-your-pants, falling down, sh**-faced drunk.

    The alcohol-soaked culture is our single claim to fame. Some months ago, a local newspaper printed a series of articles with statistics about Wisconsin's astonishingly high propensity for binge drinking, juvenile alcohol consumption, drunk driving, and the unbelievably high fatality rates for each category.

    The local reaction? Woooo Hooo! We're Number One! We're Number One!
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner5877 View Post
    Good Day all,
    I have a few questions about Wisconsin drinking laws.
    1) is it ok for a child to have a drink in a bar as long if its ok with the bar tender and parents are with the child.
    2) I have heard a under 21 aldult can drink with husband or wife thats over the age of 21
    3) I have also heard the Wisconsin is the only state where your first time drunk drinking arrest is not called a crime
    I'm not in Wisconsin, nor do I specifically know about their alcohol laws, but this sounds like the epitome of HUA Barstool Legalistics.

    I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express when I visited Wisconsin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg72982 View Post
    Would you like some cheese with that whine?
    Naaa, we're short alot of different things, but cheese ain't one of them.

    Beer and cheese. It's what we got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeker View Post
    I'm not in Wisconsin, nor do I specifically know about their alcohol laws, but this sounds like the epitome of HUA Barstool Legalistics.
    Nope, it's the fact that a lobbying group called the Tavern League swings one of the biggest bats there is in the state Legislature. They are why we were one of the last states to lower the per se limit to .08. The ONLY reason it happened was the DOT threat of withholding Fed highway funds. They are why 1st offense drunk driving is still a civil forfeiture instead of a misdemeanor. They fought tooth and nail to prevent raising the drinking age from 18 to 21. Etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    Nope, it's the fact that a lobbying group called the Tavern League swings one of the biggest bats there is in the state Legislature. They are why we were one of the last states to lower the per se limit to .08. The ONLY reason it happened was the DOT threat of withholding Fed highway funds. They are why 1st offense drunk driving is still a civil forfeiture instead of a misdemeanor. They fought tooth and nail to prevent raising the drinking age from 18 to 21. Etc etc
    I'm surprised MADD targeted the state and out lobbied them. They came through here like an army of Cossacks years ago and got the BAC raised, etc. And it wasn't just good will, they were spreading a lot of money around.

    I think I've read here about MADD sponsoring DUI crackdowns in various places. I dunno if they paid OT, gave awards or what.

    I'm sure not defending impaired driving, but I'm a lot more afraid of the sober 19 year old kid driving his Honda Civic 25 to 30 mph over the speed limit, weaving through traffic than I am the guy at a .08 trying to make it home. The media here makes a huge deal of a drunk driver killing someone, but overlook the more often cases of someone being killed in an intersection by some moron running a red light or stop sign at high speed. MADD has done a great job of indoctrination.

    And before anyone gets their panties in a wringer, I'm all for stiff drunk driving laws. But although drunks are a menace on the streets, they're not the only nor the biggest, contrary to the brainwashing. According to the feds, they accounted for 32% of the traffic fatalities in 2008.
    http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811162.PDF

    I'm just surprised they have really gone after Wisconsin.
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    Oh, MADD is definitely hammering Wisconsin. It's just that the Tavern League spreads sooo much money around, some legislators are literally owned by them. The other half of the issue is the deeply ingrained alcohol culture. I don't know what the percentage is, but I'd bet good money we've got one of the highest per capita rates of functional alcoholics in the nation. I know we're one of the top two or three in serious binge drinking. College kids here die of alcohol poisoning fairly frequently. That's drinking enough alcohol so fast that it puts you in a coma and you die. AC levels over .40 are not uncommon.

    As a result, drunk driving is the acceptable crime. It's not uncommon to respond to multi-vehicle accidents and find every driver involved is drunk. I don't mean just "impaired", either. A few years ago, I had a two-car, one motorcycle wreck where one driver was a .27, the cyclist was a .29 and the other driver was a .31. All three had at least two prior convictions.

    It's very common on any given weekend night to find that three quarters of the drivers on the street have been drinking. Not all are over .08, but a significant portion are. Make it a holiday like New Years or St Patricks Day, and those numbers go way up.

    Yep, sober teens acting the fool behind the wheel is a problem. Speed does kill, no question. It's just that were I live, alcohol is almost always involved to one extent or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post

    Yep, sober teens acting the fool behind the wheel is a problem. Speed does kill, no question. It's just that were I live, alcohol is almost always involved to one extent or another.
    Yeah, when I was looking for that stats that I posted, I found one that had the % of fatalities per state and Wisconsin was the highest at 49%. I didn't post it because it was 2007 stats, but the it was in the 30's for the nearly all the other states.

    Enforcement has definitely made a difference, no doubt about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    Yeah, when I was looking for that stats that I posted, I found one that had the % of fatalities per state and Wisconsin was the highest at 49%.
    Wooo Hooo! We're Number One!

    Disgusting, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    Naaa, we're short alot of different things, but cheese ain't one of them.

    Beer and cheese. It's what we got.
    It was my poor attempt at a Wisconsin joke.


    Beer and cheese? Sounds like a party to me.
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