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    Who tried a minor for posession of alcohol before?

    Before I start, please realize I have the utmost respect for law enforcement, and realize I was the one breaking the law. I'm merely looking for advice, as I have become wiser. I've had a blast the 2 weeks following this, without having a sip of alcohol.

    I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to lessen the punishment, and if there is enough evidence against me. I have had no previous convictions for anything, not even driving offenses.

    I live on a college campus, and the first night of school there were two undercover cops outside. I was waiting for my friends, so I made small talk with them from probably 15 feet away. I just asked if they were students, since they look old. I'm retarded. So they pull out their badges, and claim they:
    a) smelled alcohol from the 15-20 feet away (not windy)
    b) observed me looking drunk, even though there is no way they saw me in the restaraunt. (another lie, probably trying to pry a confession)
    c) (well of course) they claimed I slurred my words
    d) They noticed my hands had sharpie Xs, and said "That mean's he is too young to be served alcohol wherever he was"

    I WAS NOT DRUNK. Thats all I will say. I stood on one foot and said the ABCs 4 times before stopping. They said they would NOT document that as it isn't the field sobriety test offered.

    After refusing a breathalizer I was given a citation.

    Obviously refusing a breathalizer doesn't make me immune to punishment. But if they claimed "they smelled alcohol" before I approached them from a reasonable distance, is that really valid evidence? I know you think this is bull****, but I always slur my words, unless I wear a retainer every night, which hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copsFanSince09 View Post
    Before I start, please realize I have the utmost respect for law enforcement, and realize I was the one breaking the law.
    Uh huh:rolleyes:

    I'm merely looking for advice, as I have become wiser. I've had a blast the 2 weeks following this, without having a sip of alcohol.

    So you WERE drinking!:p

    I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to lessen the punishment, and if there is enough evidence against me. I have had no previous convictions for anything, not even driving offenses.

    I live on a college campus, and the first night of school there were two undercover cops outside. I was waiting for my friends, so I made small talk with them from probably 15 feet away. I just asked if they were students, since they look old. I'm retarded. So they pull out their badges, and claim they:
    a) smelled alcohol from the 15-20 feet away (not windy)
    b) observed me looking drunk, even though there is no way they saw me in the restaraunt. (another lie, probably trying to pry a confession)
    c) (well of course) they claimed I slurred my words
    d) They noticed my hands had sharpie Xs, and said "That mean's he is too young to be served alcohol wherever he was"

    I WAS NOT DRUNK. Thats all I will say. I stood on one foot and said the ABCs 4 times before stopping. They said they would NOT document that as it isn't the field sobriety test offered.

    After refusing a breathalizer I was given a citation.

    Obviously refusing a breathalizer doesn't make me immune to punishment. But if they claimed "they smelled alcohol" before I approached them from a reasonable distance, is that really valid evidence? I know you think this is bull****, but I always slur my words, unless I wear a retainer every night, which hurts.
    Well Junior, the Offense is NOT being drunk, it is the unlawful consumption of alcohol my a minor.

    I hear LOTS of excuses, but not even a general denial of the charge.:p
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    I'd say their observations must have been right, otherwise they would have found you sober. :rolleyes:
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    just my opinion, but your comments such as "another lie probably trying to pry a confession" and "(well of course) they claimed I slurred my words" show disrespect towards the police.

    That being said, since you didn't give your state, I know in PA it is illegal to purchase, consume, possess, or transport liquor or malt or brewed beverages.
    As for field sobriety, why? You aren't driving. I never understood that, I don't need you to do divided attention tests just to simply prove you were doing one or more of the above.
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    MIP does not equal being drunk. It simply means you, a minor, were consuming and/or in possession of alcoholic beverages.

    "Tryign to pry a confession" .... ???? Seriously? You're making it sound like a homicide case with you under a single light bulb swinging back and forth fighting the truth serum. It's an MIP, they don't NEED to "pry a confession" .... all they need is probable cause to believe that you were in possession of and/or consuming alcoholic beverages (which by your own admission you were. If they have that, theyn they give you a ticket and off you go.

    You're trying to find something, ANYTHING, to point to on THEIR end instead of simply accepting responsibility for breaking the law on YOUR end.
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    I kind of thought I was going to be reading about how they tried to put him on a Waterboard, but he refused to take that test, too... so they have no evidence.:rolleyes:

    Your only hope, kid, is to plead "the Hat Defense".

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    I find it very, very hard to beleive that a COLLEGE student does not know the legal requirements for MIP. considering he had to somehow conceal his actual age to get served in the first place.
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    Let's see, your original question was: "Who tried a minor for posession of alcohol before?"

    Yes, I have been successful in offering testimony in a legal proceeding against a minor in possession of an alcoholic beverage. In each case they were found guilty.

    The only responsibility of the officer is to establish that the minor was in possession of an alcoholic beverage and that the minor is indeed under the legal age for said possession - in CA that age is 21.

    If you want to plead not guilty, that is your right. You also have the right to be honest and forthright, and not provide false testimony, by pleading guilty to your minor error in judgement. Become an adult - accept responsibility and don't repeat your mistakes in judgement.
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    You asked, "Who tried a minor in possession of alcohol before?"

    I did. It was in 1992 in a small west Texas county. Myself and the minor went into the JP's office. I told the Judge what I observed. He looks at the minor and asked how he was going to pay his fine. Shortest day in court I ever had :D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by copsFanSince09 View Post
    After refusing a breathalizer I was given a citation.[/b]
    DING DING DING!! We have a winner!!

    Obviously the officers were right, as if you hadn't been drinking then you would have taken the breathalyzer and would have blown a .000. Since you obviously were drinking and obviously knew you'd fail, you refused.

    And yes, refusing a breath test can be used against you in court.

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    You have the "utmost respect" for law enforcement? give me a break. The mere fact that you are trying to get out of a MIP charge is insulting to us. It's funny how the whole paragraph you try to build up some sort of defense, when we can easily read through the lines and figure out you were actually consuming alcohol.

    I WAS NOT DRUNK. Thats all I will say.
    After refusing a breathalizer
    even though there is no way they saw me in the restaraunt.
    Heck, I wasn't even there and I can tell you are avoiding the truth just by your post. As snapshawt advised, this isn't a homicide case. They popped you for underage possession/consumption of alcohol. Believe me junior, we don't need a lot of evidence to get a conviction on that one.

    Here's an idea, grow a pair and accept responsibility for your actions.

    Here's a piece of advice - next time just come on here, man up and tell us you got caught and what type of punishment to expect.

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    I can smell BS (at fifteen or twenty feet away), there is way more to the story. To bad you were drunk and cant remember it.

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    Here in the state of ND a sip will get you arrested. I took nearly 20 MIC's out of a house party not to long ago. Most of them had barely been drinking. You are under 21, you drank alcohol, the amount it moot, you are guilty. Man up and move on it's not the end of the world.
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