Layman seeks info re sex offenders (re Jaycee case)

[Aussie George]

1. Aliens.
2. Obama's birth certificate.
3. Squirrel balls.
4. The B4 Stealth bomber.
5. Atlantis.
6. Back Waxing.
7. Donkey Shows.
8. Groom Lake.
9. The smell coming from Paris Hilton.
10. Nuclear Fission.

Just a short list... hope it helps.

Okay.

No 1 - everyone knows vampires are the new aliens.
No 2 - Obamas birth certificate. Well I checked Snopes and that cleared that up enough for me.
No 3 - I am not sure what the hell that is about. I found a couple of things when I googled that. One of them showed a picture of a squirrel that...well...I hope he walks very carefully or he is never gonna have kids. The other was a bit more disturbing. It was a link to an online shopping site that actually sold these (again though they were not exactly what i thought they were)
No 4 - It seems the world is full of nerds and the internet is run by geeks. I found very little about this plane due to the fact that I could not bother wade through the endless crap about RC planes to find any stories about the real ones.
No 5 - I thought that was were Norm was from :p
No 6 - I thought that was what Norm did when he was not cooking and drinking beer (or cooking with beer). :p
No 7 - I have never seen one of these, but I would assume it was like the snake show I saw at Kings Cross when I was 18. Man was that an eye opener!! Poor girl. Poor snake!!
No 8 - Oh crap I just googled this and now I think I hear people in my roof!!! Gotta go get some tin foil and make a helmet.
No 9 - Don't even want to go there. No-one is that curious they want to learn about that.
No 10 - Not that interesting really. I built a small reactor in my back yard...well of course I did. How else am I meant to develop tiny little warheads for my RC B4 Stealth Bomber to drop on my neighbours yapping dog!!!

There's those noises in the roof again. Gotta go

[Kimble]

It wasn't "investigators" that cracked the Jaycee cases was it? Just damn good cop work, same as Oklahoma bombing. :p :D

Aussie,

Not sure if you took offense to my previous post, but if you did, it was not intended to be a knock against patrol officers, or to put investigators on any sort of pedestal. The apprehension of Timothy McVeigh is definitely one of many examples of uniformed officers making big busts, as is the apprehension of Eric Rudolph. However, training in the investigation of complex cases (whether homicide, fraud, or human smuggling) is usually given to investigators because their function is to do the long-term investigation. These cases, and the Jaycee sex slavery case, are examples that proactive, competent patrol officers do fill in gaps that investigator miss. All part of being on the same team.

I know you already know all this, but just clarifying that my previous post was not intended to downplay the role of patrol. It's referred to as the "backbone" of LE for a reason.

[Aussie George]

Aussie,

Not sure if you took offense to my previous post, but if you did, it was not intended to be a knock against patrol officers, or to put investigators on any sort of pedestal. The apprehension of Timothy McVeigh is definitely one of many examples of uniformed officers making big busts, as is the apprehension of Eric Rudolph. However, training in the investigation of complex cases (whether homicide, fraud, or human smuggling) is usually given to investigators because their function is to do the long-term investigation. These cases, and the Jaycee sex slavery case, are examples that proactive, competent patrol officers do fill in gaps that investigator miss. All part of being on the same team.

I know you already know all this, but just clarifying that my previous post was not intended to downplay the role of patrol. It's referred to as the "backbone" of LE for a reason.

No offence taken at all. I should use more tongue in cheek emoticons next time. :D :D

They only thing I do take offence to is the American spelling of offence (offense).










J/K - :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
(Now I just sit back and await the abuse! :D :D)

[Aussie George]

No offence taken at all. I should use more tongue in cheek emoticons next time. :D :D

They only thing I do take offence to is the American spelling of offence (offense).










J/K - :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
(Now I just sit back and await the abuse! :D :D)

Oh crap!! don't you just hate it when you pick on someone's spelling (as I have in this case) even though in this case it is based on a cultural difference and not actual misspelling, and then when you re-read your post, you realise you have made a stupid typo!!


BTW, thought I may as well hijack this thread for my own amusement as there is no way that anyone who is a cop is actually going to tell the OP waht he asked anyways.

[retdetsgt]

It wasn't "investigators" that cracked the Jaycee cases was it? Just damn good cop work, same as Oklahoma bombing. :p :D

Yep. Quite often it's a uniform officer that opens the door to a case. The investigators take it and make the case to go to trial and try to tie it in with other cases, but the window is generally opened by a uniform officer.

I tried to emphasize that when I taught academies. I encouraged them to rather be secretaries who record info for reports, be curious and be suspicious.

Our uniform guys have made 100X more arrests for bank robbery than our detectives and the FBI put together.

[Aussie George]

Aussie,

Not sure if you took offense to my previous post, but if you did, it was not intended to be a knock against patrol officers, or to put investigators on any sort of pedestal. The apprehension of Timothy McVeigh is definitely one of many examples of uniformed officers making big busts, as is the apprehension of Eric Rudolph. However, training in the investigation of complex cases (whether homicide, fraud, or human smuggling) is usually given to investigators because their function is to do the long-term investigation. These cases, and the Jaycee sex slavery case, are examples that proactive, competent patrol officers do fill in gaps that investigator miss. All part of being on the same team.

I know you already know all this, but just clarifying that my previous post was not intended to downplay the role of patrol. It's referred to as the "backbone" of LE for a reason.

Thanks for the heads up on this one too ROS. Hadn't heard a lot about it...

Eric Rudolph, 36, is charged with the 1998 bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic that killed an off-duty police officer and critically injured a nurse. Rudolph was arrested May 31, 2003 while pilfering through a dumpster behind a grocery store in Murphy, North Carolina by a sheriff's deputy on routine patrol, ending a FBI manhunt that lasted more than five years.

(sorry can't provide a link - lost it somewhere while copying and pasting -but it is from the interweb somewhere)


And to any well trained investigators, I in no way meant to offend or blow the trumpet for the uniform vs plain clothes rivalry. Just having fun is all. We all fight the good fight together.

[RoadKingTrooper]

Well Curious George I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag and disclose secret training info about sex offenders

Rent "Silence of the Lambs"


It will lay out EVERYTHING

Oh and absolutely NO QUESTIONS about Mimes

Y'know, it would be a big help to me if you could give me a list of the things I'm not supposed to be curious about.

Hmm..on second thot, it's selfish of me to burden you with extra work for my personal use. It would be easier, and no doubt more comprehensive, if you could refer me to an organization or book that could give me such a list. Thanks.

[retdetsgt]

Well Curious George I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag and disclose secret training info about sex offenders

Rent "Silence of the Lambs"


It will lay out EVERYTHING

Oh and absolutely NO QUESTIONS about Mimes

I was thinking more of Pulp Fiction.....

[deputywave]

Oh and absolutely NO QUESTIONS about Mimes

What kind of training do mimes get in regards to these type cases? :D

[RoadKingTrooper]

Mimes? thought we weren't discussing them:mad:

[retdetsgt]

Mimes? thought we weren't discussing them:mad:

At least you don't have to give them their Miranda rights....