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Old 01-16-09, 12:37 AM
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Question old class a misdemeanor...any chance of becoming a police officer

I used to be a dancer and was arrested for public lewdness,class A misdemeanor, but wasn't convicted. I received deferred adjudication and did community service and was put on probation for 2 years. This was about 9 years ago. I've left that seedy side of life and now work as a retail manager of a vitamin store and have done this for 4 years now. My dream is to become a police officer, but they say you can't have a class a misdemeanor deferred on your record. I know I would be great in law enforcement, and it doesn't seem fair that they hold something like that against you from your past if you've shown you've changed and now live a clean good life. Is there any way to get the misdemeanor expunged from my record so that I can become what I really want to be in life? Or will they still be able to see it on my background check? I need suggestions...please help!
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Old 01-16-09, 09:06 AM
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I used to be a dancer and was arrested for public lewdness,class A misdemeanor, but wasn't convicted. I received deferred adjudication and did community service and was put on probation for 2 years. This was about 9 years ago. I've left that seedy side of life and now work as a retail manager of a vitamin store and have done this for 4 years now. My dream is to become a police officer, but they say you can't have a class a misdemeanor deferred on your record. I know I would be great in law enforcement, and it doesn't seem fair that they hold something like that against you from your past if you've shown you've changed and now live a clean good life. Is there any way to get the misdemeanor expunged from my record so that I can become what I really want to be in life? Or will they still be able to see it on my background check? I need suggestions...please help!

You do realize that different states have different laws, right?

It reads as though you might be in Texas, so here is the Texas answer. You are not eligiible for an expunction.

And to your whining; life is not fair, and it is tough. Sometimes we do things in life that effect us forever even though we are not THAT person anymore. There you find yourself. There are plenty of careers where you can serve mankind with your background.
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Old 01-16-09, 10:44 AM
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It's not the fact it's a misdemeanor, it's that it's public lewdness that's important.

In Oregon, any conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude means no certification.
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Yes, they will see it in your background check. You'll need to find another career choice, law enforcement is not an option for you. We make choices, and those choices have consequences. It's good that you've turned around and have become a productive citizen. However, that particular choice has closed the door of this profession to you.
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I'll just put it to you this way- I have never met a SINGLE law enforcement officer who ever worked as a "dancer" (we call them strippers where I'm from). Much less was charged with public lewdness while working their "job".

Believe it or not, you can be disqualified for employment based on a lack of moral character.
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Not only do you have to worry about your conviction (and yes, as far as we're concerned any type of disposition that involved probation or withheld adjudication is the same as a conviction), but you have to worry about all the times you didn't get caught doing all of those lewd acts you used to do as a "dancer." You also have to worry about all the other things that you did when you were in the "seedy side" of life, such as drugs or committing other crimes. If you're anything less than truthful, the polygraph and background investigation will show it.

In short, I think your chances are slim to none.
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I'll just put it to you this way- I have never met a SINGLE law enforcement officer who ever worked as a "dancer" (we call them strippers where I'm from). Much less was charged with public lewdness while working their "job".
I have. When we had the big push to hire wimmen in the 70's, we hired a woman who had worked as a topless dancer. She was never arrested though, what she did was legal.

She actually retired a few years ago after a pretty good career. I emphasize, she was never arrested and apparently stayed within the law.
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Thanks for your encouraging "life is tough and is not fair" sermon. Must be hard for you to get through life with such a negative and judgemental attitude, but hey, that's not my problem is it?
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Thanks for your encouraging "life is tough and is not fair" sermon. Must be hard for you to get through life with such a negative and judgemental attitude, but hey, that's not my problem is it?
LMAO. You don't get an answer you like so we are negative and judgmental?

ROFLMAO.

Honey, those of us who accept the things we tried to tell you ARE happy, well adjusted and successful. That is because we accept facts and move on, rather than sitting around having pity parties for ourselves. But that s not OUR problem, is it?
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I have. When we had the big push to hire wimmen in the 70's, we hired a woman who had worked as a topless dancer. She was never arrested though, what she did was legal.

She actually retired a few years ago after a pretty good career. I emphasize, she was never arrested and apparently stayed within the law.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But was she cute? :p
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Thanks for your encouraging "life is tough and is not fair" sermon. Must be hard for you to get through life with such a negative and judgemental attitude, but hey, that's not my problem is it?
This looks like a job for the
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Thanks for your encouraging "life is tough and is not fair" sermon. Must be hard for you to get through life with such a negative and judgemental attitude, but hey, that's not my problem is it?
Would you rather we lie to you and build up your hope and beliefs that you will make a fine applicant and a great Officer ??

Having been a Police Officer since 1986 , I am required to be judgmental and the " clientele" that I get to deal with a lot enhances my ability to be negative.

I consider it a burden that I must bear while serving my comunity.
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LMAO. You don't get an answer you like so we are negative and judgmental?

ROFLMAO.

Honey, those of us who accept the things we tried to tell you ARE happy, well adjusted and successful. That is because we accept facts and move on, rather than sitting around having pity parties for ourselves. But that s not OUR problem, is it?
Guess I got you all riled up....no worries...it's all good sweetie! No need to be a hater...it's all good. You'll be ok i promise....God still loves you
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Would you rather we lie to you and build up your hope and beliefs that you will make a fine applicant and a great Officer ??

Having been a Police Officer since 1986 , I am required to be judgmental and the " clientele" that I get to deal with a lot enhances my ability to be negative.

I consider it a burden that I must bear while serving my comunity.
No i like honesty, and thank you for your reply. Keep up the good work, you sound like a good police officer
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I have. When we had the big push to hire wimmen in the 70's, we hired a woman who had worked as a topless dancer. She was never arrested though, what she did was legal.

She actually retired a few years ago after a pretty good career. I emphasize, she was never arrested and apparently stayed within the law.
Thanks for your input..it's much appreciated! I'm already in the process of applying for the police department and have a really good feeling I'll be successful in becoming exactly what I want to be! Thank you for your motivation;)
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