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    I am familiar with the requirements for people applying to become an LEO in regards to drug use. I'm going on vacation somewhere it's pretty rampant and legal and it's something that is pointed out right away by everyone I talk to. I don't do it and have the thought of LE in my future, so not planning on screwing with those chances regardless. Still made me curious as I read this board a lot and people are constantly asking about drug use and how it will affect them. (Always think they're stupid and here I am asking)

    I'm assuming it's frowned upon in general regardless of its' legality

    I understand it is taken so serious due to the obvious.. being against the law and all the criminal activity it supports here. Was more curious about the part on how much of a role the use itself is viewed when taken out of the criminal role.

    If it's as plain and obvious that the answer is no, sorry for asking another "can I do drugs and rob banks and still get hired?" question, just thought it hit a bit of a grey area. If it annoys you feel free to pass this by. Just thought it raised an interesting scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguy123 View Post
    I am familiar with the requirements for people applying to become an LEO in regards to drug use. I'm going on vacation somewhere it's pretty rampant and legal and it's something that is pointed out right away by everyone I talk to. I don't do it and have the thought of LE in my future, so not planning on screwing with those chances regardless. Still made me curious as I read this board a lot and people are constantly asking about drug use and how it will affect them. (Always think they're stupid and here I am asking)

    I'm assuming it's frowned upon in general regardless of its' legality

    I understand it is taken so serious due to the obvious.. being against the law and all the criminal activity it supports here. Was more curious about the part on how much of a role the use itself is viewed when taken out of the criminal role.

    If it's as plain and obvious that the answer is no, sorry for asking another "can I do drugs and rob banks and still get hired?" question, just thought it hit a bit of a grey area. If it annoys you feel free to pass this by. Just thought it raised an interesting scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citicop View Post
    A drug use policy is the drug use policy, period. There is no exemption for using drugs in a country where it was legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguy123 View Post
    I am familiar with the requirements for people applying to become an LEO in regards to drug use. I'm going on vacation somewhere it's pretty rampant and legal and it's something that is pointed out right away by everyone I talk to. I don't do it and have the thought of LE in my future, so not planning on screwing with those chances regardless. Still made me curious as I read this board a lot and people are constantly asking about drug use and how it will affect them. (Always think they're stupid and here I am asking)

    I'm assuming it's frowned upon in general regardless of its' legality

    I understand it is taken so serious due to the obvious.. being against the law and all the criminal activity it supports here. Was more curious about the part on how much of a role the use itself is viewed when taken out of the criminal role.

    If it's as plain and obvious that the answer is no, sorry for asking another "can I do drugs and rob banks and still get hired?" question, just thought it hit a bit of a grey area. If it annoys you feel free to pass this by. Just thought it raised an interesting scenario.
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    BIG believes in a round about way, he's asking if he goes to Amsterdam, where drugs are legal, if he was to use, could it be used against him since it was legal where he was.

    So basically, "can I still become an LEO if I smoke some doobage in Amsterdam, where it's legal to do such?"

    To which the answer is NOPE. At least not here, but in Amsterdam, surely you can.
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    So just to go along with the original posters line of thought... do you think it would be okay to go to Thailand and have sex with underage boys because there is no law prohibiting it in that country?

    How about buying a young... say 10 year old girl from her family in Korea and keeping her in your home for your 'personal use' if it was legal in that country?

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    I figured a lot of it was ethics and not just legality. I don't know that I'd compare someone smoking pot in amsterdam to someone having sex with a 10 year old boy. Though you may be stretching it to the extreme to make a point.

    As some have stated, it answered my question. BIG hit exactly what I was asking. I was curious if it was based on the fact it was illegal or the character of one who does drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguy123 View Post
    I figured a lot of it was ethics and not just legality. I don't know that I'd compare someone smoking pot in amsterdam to someone having sex with a 10 year old boy. Though you may be stretching it to the extreme to make a point.

    As some have stated, it answered my question. BIG hit exactly what I was asking. I was curious if it was based on the fact it was illegal or the character of one who does drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguy123 View Post
    I figured a lot of it was ethics and not just legality. I don't know that I'd compare someone smoking pot in amsterdam to someone having sex with a 10 year old boy. Though you may be stretching it to the extreme to make a point.

    As some have stated, it answered my question. BIG hit exactly what I was asking. I was curious if it was based on the fact it was illegal or the character of one who does drugs.
    It has to do with whether an agency would want to hire someone who makes a choice to ingest, inject, or inhale a chemical that they know will alter their level of conciousness.

    That is not a choice that speaks well of your ability to make good decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguy123 View Post
    I figured a lot of it was ethics and not just legality. I don't know that I'd compare someone smoking pot in amsterdam to someone having sex with a 10 year old boy. Though you may be stretching it to the extreme to make a point.

    As some have stated, it answered my question. BIG hit exactly what I was asking. I was curious if it was based on the fact it was illegal or the character of one who does drugs.
    I think he nailed it spot-on as far as comparisons. Both are illegal. We do dictate what our laws are, society votes for what they feel is moral to them and what they think is best.

    Society and scientific studies have proven over and over again that illegal drugs and narcotics are illegal for a reason.

    Just because you have no faults or a lessoned moral value toward specific drugs or narcotics, does not mean it is not exactly in line with Legoate's comparison.

    It shows poor judgment, poor reasoning, lack of maturity and very little self control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-LEO View Post
    Weather your a doper in Amsterdam, or a doper in Berkly California, your still a doper.
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