I need a question answered by a REAL Officer-particularily one from Florida

[coucousis]

Sorry to say...

You will have to struggle with the poor decision you made at the time.
I can't see how you figured and still figure out that selling crack would not put an end to your possibilities of becoming a LEO.

Think about it real hard... Quite a bit of applicants manage to stay away from crimes in order to "one day" become a LEO... Why would anyone take a chance with you ?

You've lacked judgement then.... and it is considered as a fatal error in any LE application in my mind.

Does'nt mean your not a good citizen "today"... Just mean that you will be one working in other field then Law enforcement.

Good luck;)

[Kimble]

But, how many people in the uniformed services both military & law enforcment do you think have done things far worse than what I did & still got in?

Far worse than selling crack??? I'm quite confident that absolutely no one has done far worse than this and "still got in." Having sold crack, you have zero chance of working in law enforcement. Keep off drugs (to include selling them), do something positive with your life and take care of your family. Law enforcement is not going to be a career open to you, period.

[WannaBCop]

Sorry to say...

You will have to struggle with the poor decision you made at the time.
I can't see how you figured and still figure out that selling crack would not put an end to your possibilities of becoming a LEO.

Think about it real hard... Quite a bit of applicants manage to stay away from crimes in order to "one day" become a LEO... Why would anyone take a chance with you ?

You've lacked judgement then.... and it is considered as a fatal error in any LE application in my mind.

Does'nt mean your not a good citizen "today"... Just mean that you will be one working in other field then Law enforcement.

Good luck;)

It seems that you are right. I'll just have to pass down my life experiences to my kids. Thanks.

[WannaBCop]

Far worse than selling crack??? I'm quite confident that absolutely no one has done far worse than this and "still got in." Having sold crack, you have zero chance of working in law enforcement. Keep off drugs (to include selling them), do something positive with your life and take care of your family. Law enforcement is not going to be a career open to you, period.

Uhhhh...but excuse me. I think there are far more worse crimes than selling crack. Rape.Murder 1,2,3. Selling it for years & still getting in. I know there are cops out there that have sold it for years & still got in. Cops that are already cops, commited felony crimes, get fired from one department only to get picked up by another. Now, how bad does compare to what I did. Maybe where your from in the back woods of Va. but where I'm from, its not like that. Do you know why? Because they lied. I chose not to lie. Thats pretty bad if you ask me. Its not like I made a career out of it. I only did it for about a week. I told the truth. And for the record. I do not do drugs. The last time I smoked it was back in the 90's. How many cops do you think lied about what they have & haven't tried. Think about that.

A person can burn our flag, smoke marijuna numerous times, commit adultry while being president & who know's what else & still become the most powerful leader of the free world?But guess cause non of those are felonies its ok.
Thank you anyway.

[txinvestigator1]

Uhhhh...but excuse me. I think there are far more worse crimes than selling crack. Rape.Murder 1,2,3. Selling it for years & still getting in. I know there are cops out there that have sold it for years & still got in. Cops that are already cops, commited felony crimes, get fired from one department only to get picked up by another. Now, how bad does compare to what I did. Maybe where your from in the back woods of Va. but where I'm from, its not like that. Do you know why? Because they lied. I chose not to lie. Thats pretty bad if you ask me. Its not like I made a career out of it. I only did it for about a week. I told the truth. And for the record. I do not do drugs. The last time I smoked it was back in the 90's. How many cops do you think lied about what they have & haven't tried. Think about that.

A person can burn our flag, smoke marijuna numerous times, commit adultry while being president & who know's what else & still become the most powerful leader of the free world?But guess cause non of those are felonies its ok.
Thank you anyway.

You are responding like a child. You are trying to justify your bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior. Does that fly in the military?

Now, it is not just your drug dealing that makes you unqualified to me. It is your complete lack of ability to grasp the concept we are trying to demonstrate to you, and your immaturity.

[WannaBCop]

You are responding like a child. You are trying to justify your bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior. Does that fly in the military?

Now, it is not just your drug dealing that makes you unqualified to me. It is your complete lack of ability to grasp the concept we are trying to demonstrate to you, and your immaturity.

No.I'm sorry, I don't agree with you. My responses in my opinion are not childlike responses. I have grasped the concept of what I've done. I'm not trying to justify anything. I was asking if there was anything I can do to make myself a viable canidate. That is all. I didn't know if someone knew if I wrote a letter to the governor & told him my situation or the President of the U.S. to get a pardon or waiver or whatever I can do to make myself good to go. I didn't need all the negative tags of being a doper & that I'm whining. I know that I'm not. I just pretty much want a second chance. And that if anybody knew what I could do to get a 2nd chance.
Thanks.

[Legoate]

Uhhhh...but excuse me. I think there are far more worse crimes than selling crack. Rape.Murder 1,2,3. Selling it for years & still getting in. I know there are cops out there that have sold it for years & still got in. Cops that are already cops, commited felony crimes, get fired from one department only to get picked up by another. Now, how bad does compare to what I did. Maybe where your from in the back woods of Va. but where I'm from, its not like that. Do you know why? Because they lied. I chose not to lie. Thats pretty bad if you ask me. Its not like I made a career out of it. I only did it for about a week. I told the truth. And for the record. I do not do drugs. The last time I smoked it was back in the 90's. How many cops do you think lied about what they have & haven't tried. Think about that.

A person can burn our flag, smoke marijuna numerous times, commit adultry while being president & who know's what else & still become the most powerful leader of the free world?But guess cause non of those are felonies its ok.
Thank you anyway.

Yes, there are far worse crimes. However, those people ALSO do not work in law enforcement. How many officers have committed felony crimes then go work at another law enforcement agency? I would guess the answer is NONE. One of the intricacies of being a felon is you can't own or carry a gun...and it's hard to work as a cop with no gun.

To address you other points:

Flag burning- an obnoxious but legal is still considered a legal expression of freedom of speech.

Smoking marijuana numerous times- illegal and also incompatible with police service.

Adultry- An immoral behavior in most circles, but not illegal in most locations.

As far as President Clinton and his bad behavior as president....He could be the president because he was elected by a large group of idiots, however I doubt any agency would hire him as a police officer. Police agencies have standards of moral and ethical behavior, politicians do not.

Remember Mayor Barry smoking crack on camera and getting reelected as Mayor of DC? I've never heard of an agency retaining or hiring a cop caught smoking crack.

[WannaBCop]

Yes, there are far worse crimes. However, those people ALSO do not work in law enforcement. How many officers have committed felony crimes then go work at another law enforcement agency? I would guess the answer is NONE. One of the intricacies of being a felon is you can't own or carry a gun...and it's hard to work as a cop with no gun.

To address you other points:

Flag burning- an obnoxious but legal is still considered a legal expression of freedom of speech.

Smoking marijuana numerous times- illegal and also incompatible with police service.

Adultry- An immoral behavior in most circles, but not illegal in most locations.

As far as President Clinton and his bad behavior as president....He could be the president because he was elected by a large group of idiots, however I doubt any agency would hire him as a police officer. Police agencies have standards of moral and ethical behavior, politicians do not.

Remember Mayor Barry smoking crack on camera and getting reelected as Mayor of DC? I've never heard of an agency retaining or hiring a cop caught smoking crack.

Believe it or not, felons do get hired by the Police. More than one would think. Maybe I can say this because I've seen a few cops in my hometown that should of never become Officers become Officers.
Thank you anyway.

[txinvestigator1]

No.I'm sorry, I don't agree with you. My responses in my opinion are not childlike responses. I have grasped the concept of what I've done. I'm not trying to justify anything. I was asking if there was anything I can do to make myself a viable canidate. That is all. I didn't know if someone knew if I wrote a letter to the governor & told him my situation or the President of the U.S. to get a pardon or waiver or whatever I can do to make myself good to go. I didn't need all the negative tags of being a doper & that I'm whining. I know that I'm not. I just pretty much want a second chance. And that if anybody knew what I could do to get a 2nd chance.
Thanks.

You have done nothing but act childish.

This thread is no longer useful, just a place to whine for WannaBCop.

[WannaBCop]

You have done nothing but act childish.

This thread is no longer useful, just a place to whine for WannaBCop.

Please tell me what exactly have I said that was childish? Maybe you misinterperted what I said.

[Kimble]

Okay, I'm closing this because you just don't get it. The facts have been presented, yet you refuse to acknowledge them. So, go ahead and apply. I won't lose any sleep over it, but I can already predict the outcome. You've already set yourself up for failure by selling crack. Don't believe me? Then apply and prove me wrong (you won't). No department in the U.S. would hire a crack dealer... but what do I and the other LEOs on this board know? :rolleyes: