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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggy View Post
    Every department will vary on how to complain about an Officer. At my former PD you had to be able to identify the Officer. ....
    At my former SO, you could complain in an anonymous e-mail... :rolleyes: ... and it had teeth!!
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    Thank you for the reply, if it is like your department, I would go to the police department? Is there any writen law pertaining to an officers contuct that would be public? When I have called the police department here about this subject matter they get all defencive and tell me they cannot talk to me about my problem then hang up on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laviathen View Post
    Thank you for the reply, if it is like your department, I would go to the police department? Is there any writen law pertaining to an officers contuct that would be public? When I have called the police department here about this subject matter they get all defencive and tell me they cannot talk to me about my problem then hang up on me.
    If you call to complain, you'd better have a LEGITIMATE complaint and not just be whining about some bunch of penny ante BS... :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post
    If you call to complain, you'd better have a LEGITIMATE complaint and not just be whining about some bunch of penny ante BS... :rolleyes:
    +1

    At first, your original post sounded like an interested concern .... Reading your second post convince me that your whining just about anything an officer does.

    I'm sorry to tell you that but if you have nothing better to do of your days... Then your in line for trouble in your life. Spending your time and wasting energy into filing a complaint for an officer that failed to signal is irrationnal!

    I suspect you have other motives behind your actions.

    As Samuel said... before filing an official complaint... I'd suggest you get real solid grounds to do so!

    Cause when an officer "whines" about you ... Then your up for attention.

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    Maybe it's just me, but this reads like sour grapes from somebody who just got a speeding ticket themselves.

    :rolleyes:

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    Thank you for the concern I already know I will be a target of retribution. I assure you I have better reasons then simple traffic violations, it was a simple example because I do not have the time to write about everything I have seen and heard. The alternate motive, is to find out what a civilian can do when these problems arise, we have always believed police are there for our best interest but when they are not all we can do is pay and take cover instead of taking action to help our society from police who think they can do and say anything they want without repercussion. I feel like my post was very polite sorry if you feel otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laviathen View Post
    Thank you for the concern I already know I will be a target of retribution. I assure you I have better reasons then simple traffic violations, it was a simple example because I do not have the time to write about everything I have seen and heard. The alternate motive, is to find out what a civilian can do when these problems arise, we have always believed police are there for our best interest but when they are not all we can do is pay and take cover instead of taking action to help our society from police who think they can do and say anything they want without repercussion. I feel like my post was very polite sorry if you feel otherwise.
    I don't think anyone was saying that your post was Not polite.

    In my experience, what I'VE "seen and heard" is a LOT of complaints by non-LEOs consisting of ignorant ASSumptions, sour grape whining, irrational jealousy, third or fourth party hearsay conclusions, and outright intentional phony allegations!

    IF you have a LEGITIMATE concern, you can always contact the watch commander/officer in charge who is on duty at that particular moment.

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    I think the ed. of this thread is jealous that police can speed and he cant.
    Now I read the second page and it seems the usual route, he got a speeding tix and wants to know why police speed.
    well, Leviathan, its our jobs.
    Picture this scenario- We get an "Assist EMS call, difficulty breathing, 9 month old baby"
    Now we are not as qualified as the medics but we can calm moms fears and maybe get on scene and find out the baby is just coughing or maybe is truly having trouble breathing. Now in most places, we would go lights and sirens but some departments make it an EMS problem BUT we are caring people and will get there as quick as possible, sometimes using lights and sirens, sometimes not.
    Do you want us to drive at or under the speed limit if your family member is choking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummer-eman View Post
    ...Do you want us to drive at or under the speed limit if your family member is choking?
    In his mind, that would make him a target of retribution.:rolleyes:

    He has the paranoia level of a 15 year old. Leave him to his Pot and his tiny wooden cabin in the higher elevations, writing diatribes to newspapers. :cool:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawai'i Revised Statutes
    §291C-26 Authorized emergency vehicles. (a) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm and vehicles used by police officers while in the performance of a police function, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.

    (b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:

    (1) Park or stand irrespective of the provisions of this chapter;

    (2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

    (3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as the driver does not endanger life or property;

    (4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions;

    (5) Drive on the shoulder and median of roadways; and

    (6) Drive in controlled-access roadways, highways, and facilities.

    (c) The exemptions granted in subsection (b) to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of authorized audible and visual signals, except as otherwise provided by county ordinance. This subsection shall not apply to police vehicles.

    (d) The foregoing provisions shall not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor shall those provisions protect the driver from the consequences of the driver's reckless disregard for the safety of others. [L 1971, c 150, pt of §1; gen ch 1985; am L 2002, c 93, §1; am L 2003, c 112, §2]
    Police in Hawai'i do not need to use emergency signals to be exempt from the traffic laws in subsection (b).
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    In our state emergency vehicles are exempt from speeding and other traffic laws. I tried explaining that once to a "concerned" citizen when I was a city officer and had gone to a home invasion. I even explained I was going to an in progress home invasion. he wasn't happy that I sped no matter what I told him so he complained. He got the "oh yeah ok sure" and then the "Now get the hell out of my office" response!!!!

    Alot of people have it in thier minds that police all think they are above the law and want to complain when they see something that they perceive as unlawful conduct by the police. Let em complain, I find alot of the complaints rather humorous myself!!!!!:D:D
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