Research Question

[kilua]

I would like to know the appropriate answer to the following question and why.
Which is more important to the successful outcome of a criminal investigation and why-the crime scene investigation or good interviews and interrogations?

[ROS]

Originally Posted by kilua

I would like to know the appropriate answer to the following question and why.
Which is more important to the successful outcome of a criminal investigation and why-the crime scene investigation or good interviews and interrogations?

This sounds vaguely like a criminal justice class homework assignment.

[vengeance05]

The most important thing to the sucessful outcome of a criminal investigation? Easy. What donuts and coffee the intern brings us. If he brings the wrong flavor donut or gets my coffee order messed up I may unwittingly fumble with the CSI and forget to do area interviews because of my frustration over the jelly stain on my shirt. Luckily the interns are good here and my clearance rate is quite high. Next question please.

[realpolice]

They both really go hand in hand. If one is compromised, then the other is compromised. A good interview/interrogation will go no where if the scene is not investigated correctly; for instance, non-collection of important evidence, photos, good report, witness statements, etc. The prosecutor will look over everything before issuing a warrant, just as a defense attorney will look over the report for "holes" that weeken the case. Hope this helps.

[Plazoo]

Originally Posted by kilua

I would like to know the appropriate answer to the following question and why.
Which is more important to the successful outcome of a criminal investigation and why-the crime scene investigation or good interviews and interrogations?

By successful outcome, I'm assuming you rate the success on whether the bad guy was convicted? If that's the case, the most important aspect would be whether the case was assigned to a professional Prosecutor...or a lazy ass who just wants to move cases regardless of the outcome. I've seen rock solid cases get reduced to charges so low its ridiculous.

For example, I had a child rape case a few years ago. Good solid victim, full recorded confession from the dirtbag, and DNA evidence. I know, you think the guy got hammered...but alas...nooooo! In exchange for a guilty plea to Assault in the 4th Degree all other charges were dismissed!!

Lazy asses.

[Johninaustin]

Kid, you really need to do your own homework. :rolleyes:

[bluelightzgrl]

Originally Posted by Johninaustin

Kid, you realy need to do your own homework. :rolleyes:

Maybe realpolice will open up a section for homework. The "Have a Cop help with your homework" section.

[oscarmitre]

Please folks, no-one is forcing anyone to respond. If you don't want to help then don't post, simple. But since the post doesn't seem to me to be a breach of the TOS then it is valid.

I'm still waiting for a cj student to ask, "What do cops in Australia do when they receive a report of a kangaroo loose in town streets?"

I'll answer it when it comes up.

[ROS]

Originally Posted by oscarmitre

Please folks, no-one is forcing anyone to respond. If you don't want to help then don't post, simple. But since the post doesn't seem to me to be a breach of the TOS then it is valid.

It's not a matter of a breach of TOS, it's a matter of whether the question posted is likely a question posed by an instructor in a Criminal Justice college class. As a CJ professor, I know what these sort of questions tend to look like, and think this is exactly such.

[oscarmitre]

Originally Posted by ROS

It's not a matter of a breach of TOS, it's a matter of whether the question posted is likely a question posed by an instructor in a Criminal Justice college class. As a CJ professor, I know what these sort of questions tend to look like, and think this is exactly such.

And what if it is such a question? What if the poster is a cj student and chooses to pose the question here rather than at the desk of the local police station? The difference I suppose is that the poster isn't about to cite pers.comm.

But then perhaps the poster is looking for guidance, posting a general question so that he or she is able to shape his or thinking a little more finely and can then pursue a line of inquiry? I'm sure that if all the student (poster) included in the work was http://www.realpolice.forums.net cited date/time etc. that you'd be demanding more before you gave a decent grade. That's between the student and the instructor.

I'd be happy to have a discussion about this in an appropriate thread where we could back and forth about expectations of students and how they can use the net to plagiarise and how to spot plagiarism (not that I'm suggesting for one moment that's happening here).

According to the rules of this forum this poster has done no wrong and that's why I cited the TOS.

And I stress, if someone doesn't want to help with an assignment then they simply move on, perhaps muttering to themselves, maybe even sighing a little as they remember having to go to the library or the police station and how it would have been much easier with the internet back then (I'm also happy to discuss that as well). But to post remarks about "that's homework, we're not helping you", is to make us all look like grumblebums.

So, let's play nicely and if I or anyone else wants to help someone on their way with a ton of info, some links or a kind word, then we can.

[ROS]

Originally Posted by oscarmitre

But to post remarks about "that's homework, we're not helping you", is to make us all look like grumblebums.

So, let's play nicely and if I or anyone else wants to help someone on their way with a ton of info, some links or a kind word, then we can.

Point taken. I've had my own CJ student, who I've warned previously not to use internet forums to conduct their research for them, do so. However, if there are those on here who are up for sharing their experience and knowledge via an online vessel to students of a criminal justice collegiate course, then no harm or foul. I choose to have my students make a face-to-face meeting and dialog with an actual cop or other CJ field representative, but if other professors or instructors do not require such, I suppose the sharing of information related to questions posted is certainly within permissible bounds.

[realpolice]

I'm going to close this thread and request the following, making this very simple.

If you don't have an answer that simply "answers" the question, then please do not respond at all. I understand everyone's point here, which I agree are valid, but I'm getting tired of reading posts that appear to simply "bash" the person posting the question. This only discourages new members from posting questions, something I do not want here at all. I would rather a question simply go unanswered then read these types of comments.

Let me apologize as well, I don't like having to come in and make these type of requests/demands, but I am asking, really for the last time, to not reply in sarcastic manners. I am extremely appreciative that you've taken the time to answer questions, but again I ask, simply, do not post if you don't agree with the question simply to insult the member.