Police Jobs
RealPolice Forums
Police Gear
Police Agencies

Closed Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Jay473 is offline Banned Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts
    Join Date
    Jan 27th, 2006
    Posts
    7

    Fake gun robbery

    Ok, Got into a fight with a friend of mine so I have a question about committing a robbery with a fake weapon.

    If a robber uses a fake gun in robbery will he be charged with robbery with a weapon or just a robbery? I know he will do time but will he do time for holding the gun during robbery as well?

  2. #2
    nemesis1670's Avatar
    nemesis1670 is offline WhatThe... nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute nemesis1670 has a reputation beyond repute
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Oct 4th, 2006
    Location
    The West
    Posts
    78
    In my city we would charge the person with Aggravated Robbery (robbery with a weapon). The victim has no way of knowing that the weapon is fake and is still in fear for their life, so therefore it's still an armed robbery.

  3. #3
    Insayn's Avatar
    Insayn is offline Veteran Member Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute Insayn has a reputation beyond repute
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Nov 13th, 2006
    Posts
    650
    The same here. We would charge them with Aggravated Robbery. It is what the complainant believes at the time of the offense. They may be in fear of serious bodily injury and/or death and not know the weapon is fake. That is after the fact info.

  4. #4
    mcsap is online now Veteran member ( retired) mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute mcsap has a reputation beyond repute
    Moderator
    Supporting Member L2
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Mar 7th, 2003
    Location
    Penciltucky
    Posts
    21,556
    We had a " toy gun" robber here recently. Doesn't matter , if the victim is placed in fear thinking it is a real gun, it gets treated like a real gun.

    BTW , if you got into a " fight " with a friend...what exactly happened that it made you cross over into the thought of using a fake gun in a crime ???? Did you pull a gun on someone or pretend that you had a gun ???
    Last edited by mcsap; 12-25-06 at 08:13 PM.
    Creeper Cop

  5. #5
    Rabbit23's Avatar
    Rabbit23 is offline The Flying Squirrel Rabbit23 has disabled reputation
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Aug 18th, 2005
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    686
    Cool "friend"

    I wish you both luck in your futures of turning into nothing and wasting space.

    And like they said ^^^ There's no way to tell if the weapon is real or fake, so it's seen as real.
    Once the sun goes down all the weirdos turn crazy-Homer Simpson

  6. #6
    ParadeRest's Avatar
    ParadeRest is offline enwhypeedee ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute ParadeRest has a reputation beyond repute
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Sep 20th, 2005
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,096
    Oddly enough in NY, the firearm has to be loaded for it to be a class B felony, if it's unloaded/defective/fake/etc it's a C felony.

  7. #7
    Jay473 is offline Banned Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts Jay473 is infamous around these parts
    Join Date
    Jan 27th, 2006
    Posts
    7
    I never pulled a weapon on anyone and the fight with a friend was verbal and not really a fight it was about who's right and who's wrong. I play airsoft and recently read that 6%-10% of robbery's are committed with a fake weapon so the robbers aren't charged with a possession of a deadly weapon. I guess we both right....I guess it all depends on the state and their own laws. Here is the link if anyone is interested .......cant put the link here but its from usatoday and search for fake firearms and you'll see it

    Rabit23 I really hope your not a cop because that it would be a waste of space in your Dpt. Don't make assumptions before finding out more bud but hopefully the above will explain more....

  8. #8
    Valor55's Avatar
    Valor55 is offline Stercus accidit Valor55 has disabled reputation
    Supporting Member L2
    Supporting Member L4
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    Oct 2nd, 2004
    Location
    Nowhere
    Posts
    13,318
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay473 View Post
    Rabit23 I really hope your not a cop because that it would be a waste of space in your Dpt. Don't make assumptions before finding out more bud but hopefully the above will explain more....
    Merry Christmas to me! I got to ban someone today. Spreading Christmas cheer, that's what it's all about. :D
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

  9. This ad will disappear if you login

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts