Zero Tolerence

[tommygenewoolworth]

We have become of nation of alternatives ...............

I agree a student has NO business bringing a weapon to school period. To saddle a kid with no educational opportunities, as a SOCIETY we are CREATING a generation of disfunctional adults ......

Many communities have alternative schools that could easily fit into the "alternative" of a young person who chooses to not conform ................

I am afraid we are beginning to create a "THROW AWAY" generation. Fearful of what they have done yet not WILLING to assist in looking at educational alternatives.

tomahawk134

[mcsap]

In, PA , an expelled student is still required to be schooled and the school is still responsible for his/her education. Whether it be tutoring or an alternative school.

I think that the zero tolerance should be 95% tolerance with a little wiggle room. By and large, if a kind brings a gun to school they get arrested and probably expelled. Again, with a little wiggle room but not much. A 10 yr old filches dads .22 is one thing , a 16 yr old does it and now we are into a new category.

[Chief_Wiggum]

Originally posted by mcsap
A 10 yr old filches dads .22 is one thing , a 16 yr old does it and now we are into a new category.

* Feb. 29, 2000: Six-year-old boy shoots and kills 6-year-old classmate at Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Mich. Because of his age, the boy is not charged. A 19-year-old man later is sentenced to two to 15 years in prison for allowing the boy access to the gun. The boy's uncle has pleaded guilty to possessing the stolen gun used in the shooting.

** Dec. 6, 1999: Thirteen-year-old student fires at least 15 rounds at Fort Gibson Middle School in Fort Gibson, Okla., wounding four classmates. Seth Trickey is convicted on seven assault charges but will not remain jail past age 19.

*** Nov. 19, 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl is shot in the head in school at Deming, N.M., and dies the next day. A 12-year-old boy later pleads guilty and is sentenced to at least two years in juvenile prison.

**** March 24, 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, fire on their middle school in Jonesboro, Ark., from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys are convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

***** Dec. 1, 1997: Three students are killed and five wounded at Heath High School in West Paducah, Ky. Michael Carneal, 14, pleads guilty but mentally ill to murder and is serving life in prison.

****** A 10-year-old schoolboy appeared in the Germiston Magistrates Court on Thursday in connection with the unlawful possession of a firearm after being caught with a gun at his primary school, police said.

Inspector Tomlin Jacobs said the boy was ordered to reappear on September 19 and in the meantime to attend a six-week juvenile rehabilitation programme. Should he for any reason not complete the programme the state would prosecute him.

Jacobs said police were called to the school by the principal who reported that the boy had been threatening his classmates with a loaded .357 magnum handgun.

Apparently he had brought the gun to school two days in a row and was showing off his skill with the weapon which belonged to his stepfather.

Jacobs said a case of negligent storage of a firearm was investigated against the stepfather and it was found he was sharing his gun safe with his brother-in-law.

******* LAS CRUCES — A 9-year-old and 5-year-old caught with an unloaded gun at an elementary school here said they planned to swap it for trading cards.
Las Cruces Police Officer Wallace Downs said police were called to Booker T. Washington Elementary Tuesday regarding a kindergartner with a gun on campus.
Downs said the boy told police he got the weapon from the 9-year-old. The 9-year-old told police he had stolen the .22-caliber, unloaded gun from his grandmother, Downs said.


Then there's the one's that make it all look silly:

:rolleyes: Gun Toting Ten-Year-Old Expelled; Seattle Schools Now Much Safer
Two weeks ago, 10-year-old Jeffrey Parks, was expelled from John Rogers Elementary School for violating the Seattle School District's zero-tolerance weapons policy.
Jeffrey's crime? Carrying a pistol onto school property.

Granted, the weapon in question wasn't exactly regulation size: it was a pistol that comes with the popular "G.I. Joe" action figure. G.I. Joe stands 11 inches tall. G.I. Joe's handgun is made of molded plastic, and is.... about an inch long. It doesn't fire, of course.

Jeffrey said the gun was in his pocket by mistake. A friend saw it when he pulled out his lunch money.

Still, a gun is a gun, said the school district -- even if it's an inch-long piece of plastic.

"The district has a zero-tolerance policy on weapons, and it is mute on size," declared Dorothy Dubia, district spokeswoman, defending the suspension.

But the district is not without mercy. After Jeffrey's parents appealed the decision and met with school officials for several hours, officials agreed to reduce the seriousness of the boy's infraction from a weapons violation -- which is a criminal offense -- to a rules violation, a district offense.

Jeffrey was allowed back in school after a three-day suspension. And the violation will be cleared from his record at the end of the school year -- providing, of course, there are no further such serious weapons incidents.

[KottonmouthKING]

america? land of the free..free to the power of the people in uniform.

soon, y'all americans won't be able to do anything legally...
can't drink, can't talk, can't take a sh**...

[imalazypup]

*post columbine stories*

Someone from my highschool wore a black trenchcoat to school. He has worn in since Jr. High actually. But because of the "trenchcoat mafia", the principal decided he would have a talk with this student, may i add, he was a model student. Well they decided to check his car. They found a wooden practice sword and his uniform for his martial arts class. Common sense? abandoned in this case, he was expelled. He lost his scholarship to whatever college he was going to, and basically got fucked. I think he later went to court. Dont know the rest of the story.


Another story.
same year, same grade as me again. Some kid realized he left his hunting rifle in his trunk. He told his friend that he forgot it, and hes gonna fake hes sick and take it home. Next day he came to school, somehow, it got back to the principal that he had a gun in his trunk the previous day. Well, this honor-roll student(i think he became valid victorian, cant remember) was also expelled. They screwed him.


The type of rules and restrictions in highschool are becoming absolutely rediculous. The "protective measures" they take are rediculous and artificial. Its just agrevating to remember the type of rules they were exercising.

[neinta]

The local shcool only has zero tollerance within the doors of the school. It is not uncommon for a student to go hunting in the early morning and leave his rifle in his truck/car and go about his day at school. Same goes for hunting dogs in the back of a pickup. Could that be a weapon? I mean they are trained to attack... well okay, chase and tree.

The only time it has been a problem is when a kid pulled his practice bag (football) out of his truck and his airsoft pistol went off. It shot some other kid in the butt. I think he only got a one day suspension.

There is a uniformed police officer there all day during the day. He usually just hangs out, tells war stories, and plays solitare. Tough job. Yes, I live in Mayberry.