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    What do you do when it's personal?

    Couple of quick questions:

    Exactly what happens when someone charged with a serious crime like a murder and bonded out is FTA for their court hearing? Do the police go out and actively look for him again, or do they leave that to a BEA?

    Also, brief case scenario: A photograph belonging to a murder suspect is discovered in his apartment on a nightstand, like he was looking at it recently. The homicide detective working on the case realizes it's a picture of the suspect and his sister-in-law as children together. As far as he knows, she hasn't been friends with this person since they were children. Would he personally go and ask his sister-in-law about this, or have someone else do it? And what sort of questions would come up for the sister-in-law?

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    I would expect a Warrant for the FTA... so both LE and Bail Enforcement would seek out the subject.

    Too much TV for the second question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acreature
    I would expect a Warrant for the FTA... so both LE and Bail Enforcement would seek out the subject.

    Too much TV for the second question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksin
    Couple of quick questions:

    Exactly what happens when someone charged with a serious crime like a murder and bonded out is FTA for their court hearing? Do the police go out and actively look for him again, or do they leave that to a BEA?
    Use some common sense here. Do you really think the cops are not going to look for a murderer that has skipped bail? Of course they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Switek
    Use some common sense here. Do you really think the cops are not going to look for a murderer that has skipped bail? Of course they are.
    What I think isn't what's important. It's what I verify. A small town with fewer police is going to hurt more than a large city department having to spare the time and resources to find the bad guy. I know you all keep your eyes out for people who are FTA, but you have prioritys. Like, the difference between looking for a the FTA serial drunk vs. a serial killer.

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    Too much TV for the second question.[/QUOTE\]

    No offense intended. But I'm still interested in knowing what sorts of rules there are about working on cases "close to home." How close is close? I was reading a news article about a woman who was killed and was the girlfriend of an LEO. Her children called him for help after the murderer fled, and he came, but it didn't say how much more involved he got after that.

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    [QUOTE=Blacksin]What I think isn't what's important. It's what I verify. A small town with fewer police is going to hurt more than a large city department having to spare the time and resources to find the bad guy. I know you all keep your eyes out for people who are FTA, but you have prioritys. Like, the difference between looking for a the FTA serial drunk vs. a serial killer.

    Quote Originally Posted by acreature
    Too much TV for the second question.[/QUOTE\]

    No offense intended. But I'm still interested in knowing what sorts of rules there are about working on cases "close to home." How close is close? I was reading a news article about a woman who was killed and was the girlfriend of an LEO. Her children called him for help after the murderer fled, and he came, but it didn't say how much more involved he got after that.
    We have these tools called a telephones & computers with extensive access to all sorts of data bases, perhaps you have heard of them. Very frequently an agency well develop information on a wanted suspect who is in another jurisdiction, state or country. A phone call, fax or teletype sets the hunt for a suspect into motion. We do it 24/7 365 days a year & without bail agents. The bottom line is if you commit a murder or a serious violent crime, LE will be coming after you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksin
    What I think isn't what's important. It's what I verify. A small town with fewer police is going to hurt more than a large city department having to spare the time and resources to find the bad guy. I know you all keep your eyes out for people who are FTA, but you have prioritys. Like, the difference between looking for a the FTA serial drunk vs. a serial killer.



    We have these tools called a telephones & computers with extensive access to all sorts of data bases, perhaps you have heard of them. Very frequently an agency well develop information on a wanted suspect who is in another jurisdiction, state or country. A phone call, fax or teletype sets the hunt for a suspect into motion. We do it 24/7 365 days a year & without bail agents. The bottom line is if you commit a murder or a serious violent crime, LE will be coming after you.

    Exactly, Why would you even begin to think that we would not be looking for you even if its a small jurisdiction. We will find you and when we do look out.

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    Typically, meaning 99.9% of the time, murder suspects do not get out on bail because they can't afford it.

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    Those who commit major crimes, get bailed and than FTA will be highly sought after.

    The person who gets a DUI and is released from the police station but later FTA's for the court date isn't near as hunted. We won't go door to door looking for the person but there will still be a warrant and if located or if we get a tip, we would be happy to go hook him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksin
    What I think isn't what's important. It's what I verify. A small town with fewer police is going to hurt more than a large city department having to spare the time and resources to find the bad guy.
    Your logic is flawed. Typically large City's Police forces are under staffed. There are exceptions, but typically, they are. The smaller Agencies are those of small towns, where they know everyone, and know where to find them.

    Large City's are also typically busier; hence LESS "spare time" as you call it... there are MORE calls to answer in a Large City, and usually a smaller Police to Citizen Ratio ;)


    No offense intended. But I'm still interested in knowing what sorts of rules there are about working on cases "close to home." How close is close? I was reading a news article about a woman who was killed and was the girlfriend of an LEO. Her children called him for help after the murderer fled, and he came, but it didn't say how much more involved he got after that.
    No offense taken. When there is a conflict, usually you are kept out for that exact reason. The scenario you gave stretched too far... and you put it in "as children"... which would be irrelevant, I would guess.

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    We are so lucky in Illinois and do not have bail bonds or whatever the heck those long haired guys are called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k9dan
    We are so lucky in Illinois and do not have bail bonds or whatever the heck those long haired guys are called.
    Gigantic jails! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by acreature
    Your logic is flawed. Typically large City's Police forces are under staffed. There are exceptions, but typically, they are. The smaller Agencies are those of small towns, where they know everyone, and know where to find them.

    Large City's are also typically busier; hence LESS "spare time" as you call it... there are MORE calls to answer in a Large City, and usually a smaller Police to Citizen Ratio ;)
    Ahhh, ok! Thank you, this is why I ask this stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by acreature
    No offense taken. When there is a conflict, usually you are kept out for that exact reason. The scenario you gave stretched too far... and you put it in "as children"... which would be irrelevant, I would guess.
    Actually, this really happened. I did reword the scenario, but it it's basically the same. It turned out the guy was trying to get the sister-in-law "on his side" and started trying to contact her again after something like 20 years. He thought since they were friends/neighbors once, she'd be willing to help him and "influence" things with her brother-in-law the detective to get him a lighter sentance. Didn't work of course, I'm just wondering what the detective did after realising his in-law knew this person as kids. It never mentioned if he was allowed to keep working the case since a family member became involved or what.

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