Curious to know if you think we got the 'whole story'

[Chautona]

This is the story as we were told it. I've always wondered how plausible it really was and suddenly realized that this was the perfect opportunity to find out.


About 8 years ago my brother (lived in AK) got a call about my nephew. Nephew's mom (my deceased brother's wife) had my nephew drive her and her buds home from some party. Apparently Nephew (age 16 at the time) was pulled over for expired tags. Open container of alcohol in the back seat (I believe his mother was drinking it) resulted in the car being searched. They found drugs on several of the people and under a back floor mat. (I'm guessing someone tried to stash it but that is not what I was told, my surmise.)

Being the driver of said car, Nephew was arrested and brought before the judge. My brother flew to OK (where this took place) and asked the judge to release Nephew in his custody, paid whatever fines etc and the Judge agreed. Brother claims that the judge said... "Step foot in my state before you turn 18 son and I'll have you in jail." (That one never sat right with me but what do I know?)

Now...

1. Does all of that sound like something that could happen? We've always assumed there was either more to this story... or considerably less! (Embellished for the sake of bravado perhaps?)

2. Does the fact that my Nephew put 20000 miles on a car in 3 months in ALASKA before being arrested for shoplifting lend any 'insight' to the liklihood that my nephew's supposed innocence was never what we were led to believe? (Btw... my rocket scientist nephew didn't try to steal a CD, a cell phone, camera or other reasonably sized item... no, he tried to walk out of Sears with a TABLE SAW)

My brother claims he sent my nephew back to OK which according to brother's account, meant Juvie for the boy.

Now I don't know this boy at all. My brother died when the child was 2 and the mother didn't allow any more contact with our family. (Primarily because it was inconvienient rather than out of animosity.) I can believe what my brother said about this mother... but I'm wondering if he or my nephew or even my sister-in-law has made my nephew out to be more innocent than he actually was.

Is there a way to read the court transcripts etc or is that closed because of being a juvenile case?

I don't know why I'm even asking but it's always bothered me, the legal process fascinates me, and, of course I wonder if my brother has toyed with the truth (otherwise known as lying) for some odd reason and what reason that would be.

Anyway, it's not that important but I am fascinated so I'm asking.

[Drew27k9]

This is the story as we were told it. I've always wondered how plausible it really was and suddenly realized that this was the perfect opportunity to find out.


About 8 years ago my brother (lived in AK) got a call about my nephew. Nephew's mom (my deceased brother's wife) had my nephew drive her and her buds home from some party. Apparently Nephew (age 16 at the time) was pulled over for expired tags. Open container of alcohol in the back seat (I believe his mother was drinking it) resulted in the car being searched. They found drugs on several of the people and under a back floor mat. (I'm guessing someone tried to stash it but that is not what I was told, my surmise.)

Being the driver of said car, Nephew was arrested and brought before the judge. My brother flew to OK (where this took place) and asked the judge to release Nephew in his custody, paid whatever fines etc and the Judge agreed. Brother claims that the judge said... "Step foot in my state before you turn 18 son and I'll have you in jail." (That one never sat right with me but what do I know?)

Now...

1. Does all of that sound like something that could happen? We've always assumed there was either more to this story... or considerably less! (Embellished for the sake of bravado perhaps?)

2. Does the fact that my Nephew put 20000 miles on a car in 3 months in ALASKA before being arrested for shoplifting lend any 'insight' to the liklihood that my nephew's supposed innocence was never what we were led to believe? (Btw... my rocket scientist nephew didn't try to steal a CD, a cell phone, camera or other reasonably sized item... no, he tried to walk out of Sears with a TABLE SAW)

My brother claims he sent my nephew back to OK which according to brother's account, meant Juvie for the boy.

Now I don't know this boy at all. My brother died when the child was 2 and the mother didn't allow any more contact with our family. (Primarily because it was inconvienient rather than out of animosity.) I can believe what my brother said about this mother... but I'm wondering if he or my nephew or even my sister-in-law has made my nephew out to be more innocent than he actually was.

Is there a way to read the court transcripts etc or is that closed because of being a juvenile case?

I don't know why I'm even asking but it's always bothered me, the legal process fascinates me, and, of course I wonder if my brother has toyed with the truth (otherwise known as lying) for some odd reason and what reason that would be.

Anyway, it's not that important but I am fascinated so I'm asking.

[Bearcat06]

[Signal_W]

Damn I'm more confused now than when I woke this morning :confused:

I'm not sure what you are asking , but the answer is yes. :D

[Chautona]

Sorry guys. I've always been confused about that story myself. It seemed 'quirky' to me but all the information I have is what I shared.

Oh well. Thanks for reading anyway.

[mcsap]

We would have no way of knowing , your story reads like a cheap novel though.

[Chautona]

We would have no way of knowing , your story reads like a cheap novel though.

ROFLOL... coming from my brother that is exactly what we said.

[wild800]

I was a little confused by the mention of your brother at first...one who has passed and another who bailed out the nephew? Anyway, one way to find out is to ask the brother who is still living, what would he have to gain by lying? Or, you could ask the nephew.

[Chautona]

I'm rarely in contact with my living brother and as stated, not in any contact with the nephew.

It was a silly question I guess. We all just shook our heads at the time and wondered what was left out or added. I don't know if my brother got a straight story or not.

Sorry for bothering you guys. It just occured to me that police deal with these kind of traffic things and courtrooms and such... I was just curious.

[Drew27k9]

Sorry for bothering you guys.

It is not that you were bothering us, it was just hard to understand the story.
Usually when someone gets arrested, they never tell someone else the whole story. They usually leave out all the details that makes them guilty.

[scott715us]

It is not that you were bothering us, it was just hard to understand the story.
Usually when someone gets arrested, they never tell someone else the whole story. They usually leave out all the details that makes them guilty.

As Drew advised, make it more simple and ask straightforward questions.

What exactly are you looking for us to answer??

[Chautona]

Primarily I was wondering if...

1. The way the arrest happened sounds plausible.

2. If a judge would make a comment such as was stated ("Step foot in my state before you turn 18 son and I'll have you in jail.")

3. The entire scenario is even possible. I know for certain that he WAS arrested with his mother. This is fact that loose family connections confirmed from newspaper accounts (police log I think). I know that he did go to Alaska and was sent back to OK after the shoplifting charge.

I don't know. It always seemed like it didn't sound plausible but then, I don't know anything about how courts work (other than civics classes etc) and arrests for things like that work... and forgive me for not contributing to your job experience, but I don't intend to get first hand experience myself. ;)

[gabe a.]

1. The arrest is very plausible, if he was driving the car he is solely responsible for any items in it if they had not been "claimed" by any other occupants.

2. I don't comment on statements judges make, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like that.

3. I'm not too sure I understand the full scenario, but you can most likely contact the arresting agency and for a fee, get a copy of the arrest report. The officer's report should be much less biased than anyone who may have been arrested.

Hope this helps. ;)

[Stan Switek]

I say the whole thing is BS.

[chris2001]

Primarily I was wondering if...

1. The way the arrest happened sounds plausible.

2. If a judge would make a comment such as was stated ("Step foot in my state before you turn 18 son and I'll have you in jail.")

3. The entire scenario is even possible. I know for certain that he WAS arrested with his mother. This is fact that loose family connections confirmed from newspaper accounts (police log I think). I know that he did go to Alaska and was sent back to OK after the shoplifting charge.

I don't know. It always seemed like it didn't sound plausible but then, I don't know anything about how courts work (other than civics classes etc) and arrests for things like that work... and forgive me for not contributing to your job experience, but I don't intend to get first hand experience myself. ;)

1. Very plausible, the officer made a traffic stop on the expired tag on the vehicle. Once he had the vehicle stopped he was able to see that in plain vew there was an open container, and after a search do to the arrest for the TOC he found drugs. It sounds like a good bust to me.
2.I agree with Gabe on this one, we do not always understand what the judge is thinking, but at the same time anything is possible. Most of the time though when statements like this or similar come out of a judges mouth they are simply using a scare tactic.
3. Who knows as others have said sometimes when people translate an arrest that they experianced the leave out the important details. Meaning the forget to tell you how they came into contact with us in the first place.