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    CCW Badge why?

    Another story from the range. I met a kid (who is very level headed) that had a CCW Badge. This thing looked like a real LE badge. Now here's the thing, it was on his belt "concealed" next to his gun. I asked him if he was a LEO and he said No sir I am not. I then asked if I could see the badge he was wearing and he took it off. It says, "Concealed Carry Weapons Permit" He was very embarassed (as he should be ;) ) but explained to me that it was legal. He told me that if there were ever a bad situation and things went down the toilet people would not point him out as the "bad guy". Also when LEO's show up they would be hesitant to target him first. He told me he is not a wanna be at all. And he got this badge off ebay.

    My question to LEO's is this legal to use? I mean isn't this kind of impersonation of a LEO? He by no means was a wanna be (nice kid) but I wasn't sure what to make of this.

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    Well that certainly sounds questionable to me. I've never seen anyone with anything like that at the range I go to. I think you better tell him its more trouble than its worth to go around wearing a badge that ppl could mistake for LE.

    Just bc its legal doesn't mean you should do it
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    Ive seen those CCW badges before. IMO they dont serve any purpose & would cause nothing but trouble. Just because you have a badge that says CCW permit, dosent mean you actually have a permit.
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    Those badges are legal here in Ga but I THINK THAT THEY ARE STOOOOPID!!!
    I have a ccw and wouldnt think of having a badges if I wasnt an LEO.
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    Yea I totally agree with you on that. The last thing I want to do as a CCW permit holder is draw attention to myself with some wannabecop badge. I don't buy the "not trying to imitate" excuse. LE should be the only ones wearing a badge, and your weapon should remain concealed at all times, so what good is a badge...if your gun isnt showing!!!
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    That's what i say but why do they even produce such things? Can anyone buy these? I don't understand it but next time I see that kid maybe i'll tell him he should think twice about carrying a ccw badge. maybe its a money making scheme (ccw badges)

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    I've seen them advertised before, and I'm glad that I'm not the only one who hates these things. What if someone sees the badge and runs up to them asking for help thinking they're a cop. "Uh, sorry ma'am, I'm just a wanna-be who carries a gun" :rolleyes:

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    I hate to wear my own badge let alone BUY one to wear!!!

    I think as far as the impersonation thing goes - just having the badge in plain site wouldn't warrant a charge like that. If this kid takes the badge out and holds it in front of him like some cops do, or makes a statement like he is LEO, that would be definitely something to look into.

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    Just to give an opinion on the other side of the coin. In some instances I could see it being a good idea. Lets say you're wearing your gun under your coat or suit jacket and the wind or something happens to push your coat back momentarily exposing your gun. Having a badge there would alliviate a lot of peoples fears of it (the gun) belonging to some yahoo, thinking that the person is a leo. That is just one instance where it may be handy, but, like most have said its probably more harm than good, although there is some good.

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    You could "what if" all day.....but i still they they are a terrible idea. If your gun is properly holstered & not stuffed in your pants or somthing....i probably wouldnt think twice about seeing it. As one of my buddies says....you keep yours holstered & so will I.
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    It actually is a good idea for someone with a CCW to carry a badge indicating that. The reasoning is very rational. If he was in a situation were he had to draw is weapon, a cop would probably not target him or make a mistake if he saw a badge. In Georgia those badges are 100% legal, as long as it doesn't say police or indicate the bearer is a member of law enforcement.

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    I can't speak for any other state, but in Virginia, those badges and many others are legal for use and display as long as they do not have the words LAW ENFORCEMENT, or POLICE anywhere on the badge and they also MUST NOT have the state Seal. I know a Security Officer that tried to get by the state seal thing by having STATE OF VIRGINIA rather than COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. It didn't fly with the judge. $300.00 fine and 100 hours of community service.

    As far as carrying a CCW Badge. If something goes down, your weapon should be concealed therefore the need for the badge is a hollow case. Once the Police Officer stops you because maybe he has seen the gun, let him get the cuffs on you and then he can check your permit. Bad guys manage to get CCW's sometimes too and ANYONE can buy those badges. Check the local Military Surplus Store.
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    Originally posted by harper150
    It actually is a good idea for someone with a CCW to carry a badge indicating that. The reasoning is very rational. If he was in a situation were he had to draw is weapon, a cop would probably not target him or make a mistake if he saw a badge. In Georgia those badges are 100% legal, as long as it doesn't say police or indicate the bearer is a member of law enforcement.

    OK, as a person who is not an LEO but has been involved in two shootings since 2000 I still say the badges are a bad idea. Even though I was known to the responding officers they still proned me out on the second shooting. On the first I had a screwdriver in my stomach and I was on the ground already. In my own opinion if you are not in a uniform it dosnt matter if you are flashing a badge or not they are going to put you on the ground and find out what is going on.Thats just my .02 cents. Stay safe everyone. Norm

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    The first time that kid walks into a 7-11 with a robbery in progress, he's likely to be an immediate target. I change my own oil, but I don't wear a "Mr Goodwrench" patch on my shirt...

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    The original post indicated that the badge was concealed next to the gun, only visible if the gun was visible.

    This would not make him any more a target than anyone else.
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