Pull over armored car?

[USNusp9]

Just a question to all LEO's out there. I currently work for Brinks armored car company and I was wondering if any LEO out there has actually pulled an armored car over for a traffic violation.

In my short experience I have never been pulled over and even get the occasional nod or friendly wave from LEO's. I dont purposely disobey traffic laws but Im sure I fail to signal or exceed posted limits on occasion.

We are instructed that if pulled over we are not to open the door for anyone, Police Officer, Brinks President, the Pope. We are supposed to display a placard that basically states that we are not going to open the door and the officer can call the Brinks office if they would like. It also says that we will follow them to a police station if necessary.

Just wondering what everyone thinks. BTW I have an interview with a Police Dept. this Tuesday. I have my bachelors and I am a Naval Officer. Hopefully I will be able to be a "verified LEO" shortly. Thanks.

[scott715us]

Never been in that situation. I would assume the Brinks driver could advise the LEO and then contact a supervisor. Or just follow the LEO to the police station if the violation was serious enough. Just disregarding the LEO's orders without making some type of communication wouldn't be a good idea.

[207]

I don't stop ANYTHING that has gun ports on it!!!!

[P01IC3M4N]

i stopped one. i had the passenger exit the truck with the driver's information.

the law says you must ID yourself to a peace officer when it is requested. if you are issued a citation, you must sign it or go to jail. if you sit in your truck and refuse to get out having failed to do all of the above, you will wind up in a tiny little cinder block room for resisting arrest/detention, the traffic charge, and failure to ID, and i'm willing to bet your company won't have the least little bit of concern over you.

regardless of policy, i'd follow what the officer says. the company can't throw you in jail and cost you thousands in fines and attorney's fees. the officer can.

as you can see above, when i stopped them, i understand the circumstance, but i do require that you comply with what i tell you to do. i will not follow you anywhere. that would be a violation of my policy. i also don't have all day to wait for your supervisor to show up.

it could get really nasty, but i haven't had to deal with that much. i see them all the time though.

[retdetsgt]

If you're driving on a public road, you are just as liable for traffic laws as a cab driver. The fact you are carrying large sums of money is irrelevant. If you refuse to pull over, your day will be ruined, I can guarantee that.

That being said, I've never seen an armored car violate traffic laws.

[Swat1]

Way back when I was a patrol officer I stopped one for passing a vehicle over the double yellows.

I talked to the driver through the little ported holes in the glass of the driver side door. He was able to place his drivers license up against the glass so that I could take down the information. I ran him and the vehicle, but did not ticket him, so I didn't have to make personal contact. Not sure what I would have done if I had to give him a ticket, maybe send it to him, or call the company as is said. I can understand why they are not supposed to open the doors. Guess you could follow him to his next stop as he will have to get out to get the money, etc.

Swat1*

[mcsap]

As long as you hand me your drivers license, registration and insurance card...we will make out fine.

I have yet to see an armored truck commit a traffic vio but you are not immune from a ticket.

[JR_23]

I've never seen one commit a traffic infraction either. Then again I don't think pulling over an armored truck would yield much in terms of wants or dope.

I can understand if they're policy states that they will not open the door for anybody...State Law says otherwise however. There is no "Armored Truck Exception" that I know of.

[Kimble]

TUES, SEPT. 14th, 1:05 p.m. - 3802 Park Ave. Two males posing as police officers pulled over an armored truck occupied by two males. The victims were two Hispanic males, ages 42 and 52 years old. Two unidentified males who were wearing baseball caps with the letters "NYPD" on them and stated that they were police officers stopped the armored truck. The two culprits proceeded to handcuffed the two employees and remove approximately $64,000 from the truck. The culprits fled in a tan colored Crown Victoria Ford sedan.

from this link: http://www.bxtimes.com/News/2004/0923/police_blotter/

[P01IC3M4N]

TUES, SEPT. 14th, 1:05 p.m. - 3802 Park Ave. Two males posing as police officers pulled over an armored truck occupied by two males. The victims were two Hispanic males, ages 42 and 52 years old. Two unidentified males who were wearing baseball caps with the letters "NYPD" on them and stated that they were police officers stopped the armored truck. The two culprits proceeded to handcuffed the two employees and remove approximately $64,000 from the truck. The culprits fled in a tan colored Crown Victoria Ford sedan.

from this link: http://www.bxtimes.com/News/2004/0923/police_blotter/

i know that's just a new brief, but let me reiterate this in a similar scenario. you hit the lights on a regular car for speeding. they continue driving another 8 miles with you in tow lights and siren until reaching your police station. their excuse: i saw on the news that sometimes people dress up like cops and rob you so i wanted to make sure you were the real deal.

do you arrest them for evading? failing to yield? or do you just understand that criminals alter how we now handle our situations regardless of what the law says?

[steelcityk9cop]

I've never seen a Brinks truck able to travel over 35 Mph. :p

[Deputy757]

TUES, SEPT. 14th, 1:05 p.m. - 3802 Park Ave. Two males posing as police officers pulled over an armored truck occupied by two males. The victims were two Hispanic males, ages 42 and 52 years old. Two unidentified males who were wearing baseball caps with the letters "NYPD" on them and stated that they were police officers stopped the armored truck. The two culprits proceeded to handcuffed the two employees and remove approximately $64,000 from the truck. The culprits fled in a tan colored Crown Victoria Ford sedan.

from this link: http://www.bxtimes.com/News/2004/0923/police_blotter/

This is not exactly the same thing though, is it? Though it doesn't say definitively, it implies that the only item identifying them as police officers were hats with NYPD on them. In addition, they were in an unmarked Ford CV. This is an entirely different scenario from being stopped by uniformed officers in marked NYPD cruisers. In the former case, I think I would also drive to a police station before stopping.

[fatboyjim154]

We are instructed that if pulled over we are not to open the door for anyone, Police Officer, Brinks President, the Pope. We are supposed to display a placard that basically states that we are not going to open the door and the officer can call the Brinks office if they would like. It also says that we will follow them to a police station if necessary.

When I delvered cash for the Royal Mail we had a little card that said, "the driver has been instructed, and will not open the door for anyone, blah blah blah. He will follow you to the nearest police station or 'crown post office' (which means letter sorting office).

If I see one delivering I wait till they're finished if I got the time or not on a call. Especially in the quite back roads and side streets.

[Kimble]

This is not exactly the same thing though, is it? Though it doesn't say definitively, it implies that the only item identifying them as police officers were hats with NYPD on them. In addition, they were in an unmarked Ford CV. This is an entirely different scenario from being stopped by uniformed officers in marked NYPD cruisers. In the former case, I think I would also drive to a police station before stopping.

Very true, but an interesting read, nonetheless. Different situation, but still in the same ball park of the overall discussion in this thread.

[TX-LEO]

Just a question to all LEO's out there. I currently work for Brinks armored car company and I was wondering if any LEO out there has actually pulled an armored car over for a traffic violation.

In my short experience I have never been pulled over and even get the occasional nod or friendly wave from LEO's. I dont purposely disobey traffic laws but Im sure I fail to signal or exceed posted limits on occasion.

We are instructed that if pulled over we are not to open the door for anyone, Police Officer, Brinks President, the Pope. We are supposed to display a placard that basically states that we are not going to open the door and the officer can call the Brinks office if they would like. It also says that we will follow them to a police station if necessary.

Just wondering what everyone thinks. BTW I have an interview with a Police Dept. this Tuesday. I have my bachelors and I am a Naval Officer. Hopefully I will be able to be a "verified LEO" shortly. Thanks.

I drove armored truck for a year. It was fun! But didnt pay squat. I typically did 10-15 over the limit because I knew the police wouldnt stop me. I could have gotten a big fat ticket too! That said, I'd prolly give them 'the eye' and shake my finger at them, but wouldnt stop 'em. I know how it is. Unless of course they are doing something reckless.