British police. Guns or no guns?

[P01IC3M4N]

well it's lower than in the US

No **** Sherlock :rolleyes:

the UK has a population of 60 million. the US has a population of almost 300 million. i should almost hope the US would have higher numbers than the UK. if they were the same, i'd be out of a job.


i think the UK police should be allowed to carry whatever they want and as many as they can.

[Cat_Doc]

i think the UK police should be allowed to carry whatever they want and as many as they can.

Concur. It appears as though "gun control" issues are failing all over the place.

[sgtbear111]

A few instances where uniformed LEOs in the USA were forbidden to be armed by their appointing authority - chief, administration or governing body. Locally I know of one campus police dept, and state comm'l vehicle officers, where policies were changed by labor grievances filed with the state. Another state agency armed their LEOs before a labor action was filed. Actions were taken up as "unsafe working conditions" or "hazardous workplace without recognized necessary equipment". Where the officer's complaints prevailed, employers were cited for workplace violations and fined for every day out of compliance. The "whistleblower" protection from employer retaliation was available, unknown if it was invoked or necessary.

Labor unions may be of little help, as most general "public employee" unions (include clerks, cooks, and social workers) are clue-less on police matters and the day-to-day risks. LEOs are a small minority of their membership, and the prof. union leaders may take a practiced "guns are always bad" position.

It may take thousands of individual labor grievances, working outside of the established unions, from individual UK officers to get the issue into the daylight. We call it "grass roots" political action. If thousands of individual UK police officers pile the labor grievances on "the system", some Minister or politician has to account for the dispositions or findings. We all know how politicians like accountabiity..........

[fatboyjim154]

Blackjack to give you an idea of how police being shot at isn't interesting to the mainstream meda I was listening to the local radio in my car today while going to visit my mummy (i'm a good boy who loves his mummy).

It appears unarmed officers were shot at in North london last night after approaching a gang of youths armed with basball bats & iron bars. The youths dropped the bats & bars & as police chased them several turned & opened fire at the police.

I will post something once it has been reported in the mainstream 'cos I can't find anything about on the net. It happened outside Willsden Junction train station yesterday at around 23:30 GMT

[blackjack]

I used to live in the US but I know live in Bristol, England. I think someone should give this post to a newspaper, the views of British cops on how they have to oporate is very interesting.

[fatboyjim154]

Here is the news link i found it an posted it in Headlines.

http://forums.realpolice.net/showthread.php?t=28449