Law Enforcement gun carry

[BHG]

Is there any place where law enforcement can not carry? I am aware of HR 218, but my question is more on places.

[BHG]

LOL yea some mothers are weird about guns. Mine has learned to accept it though. But if she wished i wouldn't do it.

Can regular Police officers carry on airplanes or in bars or airports?

[vadep]

I dunno about the federalies, but with a little paperwork I've carried on airplanes. Just because youre an LEO does not give you the right to carry into an airport & onto a plane

[JD45]

A federal law was passed that allows any LEO to carry in any state. (About time). I don't believe that allows you to carry on airlines though.

[vadep]

I flew to NY a few months ago for a case, and when I got the tickets the travel agency used by our department took care of the paperwork....

[scott715us]

LOL yea some mothers are weird about guns. Mine has learned to accept it though. But if she wished i wouldn't do it.

Can regular Police officers carry on airplanes or in bars or airports?

I feel I have a little insight on this since I'm an airport cop. In TN, officers are taught in the state academy about flying armed so this probably goes for most states in the US. Proper documentation must be provided on official letter head to the airline the officer is flying on. The officer must have proper credentials and be flying on official business. Once the airline has accepted their paperwork, they will issue boarding pass, "flying armed" documentation and a couple of other things. The officer will proceed to the checkpoint where they will be signed in by TSA before proceeding down to the gate. Of course TSA will confirm credentials again. The officer will then notify the airline personnel at the gate about being armed and possibly meet with the captain of the aircraft and/or air marshals or other armed personnel.

Some airlines allow travel with a prisoner, some don't. Those that do allow it, so do not allow shackles or restraints. Most of us folks that have traveled before while flying armed know the routine. Flying armed can include just flying on official business, VIP detail, or prisoner escort. Hope this helps. ;)

[scott715us]

I forgot to answer the second (and third) part. Airports have signs posted where firearms are prohibited, just as government buildings and post offices do. In technical terms, they should be on official business, but if they are there to pick someone up, etc, I am not going to make an issue out of it.

The signs on the building does VOID a conceal carry permit. If I catch an individual with a CCW only, they are likely to be arrested.

In the state of TN, we are allowed to carry a firearm where alcohol is sold, but not served. I believe they are in the works to amend it to where we can carry where served as long as we are not consuming. ;)

[mcsap]

I "can't " carry while flying because when I fly, I am on vacation, not on official business. I also suspect ( help me out DC) that I can't carry into a Federal Building even under HR218 and possibly on a military base.

[Ranger__101]

One other item of HR 218 is that when traveling is to learn the CCW laws of the states that you will be in.

Here a part of the HR 218 that says that HR 218 does not over ride any states laws regarding where weapons can be restricted and who can restrict them.

`(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that--

`(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or

`(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park.

[BHG]

I feel I have a little insight on this since I'm an airport cop. In TN, officers are taught in the state academy about flying armed so this probably goes for most states in the US. Proper documentation must be provided on official letter head to the airline the officer is flying on. The officer must have proper credentials and be flying on official business. Once the airline has accepted their paperwork, they will issue boarding pass, "flying armed" documentation and a couple of other things. The officer will proceed to the checkpoint where they will be signed in by TSA before proceeding down to the gate. Of course TSA will confirm credentials again. The officer will then notify the airline personnel at the gate about being armed and possibly meet with the captain of the aircraft and/or air marshals or other armed personnel.

Some airlines allow travel with a prisoner, some don't. Those that do allow it, so do not allow shackles or restraints. Most of us folks that have traveled before while flying armed know the routine. Flying armed can include just flying on official business, VIP detail, or prisoner escort. Hope this helps. ;)

Thanks bro VERY helpful.

[BHG]

Can we have a pistol in carry-on bags/checked baggage?

[Switchback]

I think that haiving a weapon in checked-luggage is permitted by most airlines, as long as you floow there policies.... generally speaking, having the weapon in a hard, lockable case w/ ammo seperate in the manufacturer's packaging.

[Bearcat06]

Yes you can fly with your pistol but it must be in your checked baggage. When you get to the Airline Ticket Counter, you must tell the Airline that you have it with you. The gun must be unloaded and locked in a container. I use my Glock box that I got when I purchased and a small lock and it works nicely for Midwest and US Air. If you bring any ammo with you, it must be in a separate, locked container. You must also tag both containers. DO NOT put the tag on the outside of your baggage regardless of what the Airline may tell you. Have them get a supervisor if you have to press the issue. The tag is supposed to be attached to the gun/ammo container.

[Switchback]

I believe what I said holds true for anyone... LE and non-LE, alike. ALso, the tag does NOT go on the outside of your luggage. It is not an option. The firearm is "inspected" and the tag goes IN your case and is visible when it goes through x-ray machines, confirming that it has been declared.

I am not the most knowledgeable in this, as it is not something I deal with. I fly armed all the time, even when on vacation. I always have. The airlines have always been exceptionally generous to most of us feds, even before 09/11.

[scott715us]

Can we have a pistol in carry-on bags/checked baggage?

As an LEO, if you are going past the checkpoint with a weapon, it better be on you along with the "flying armed" paperwork. You put the carry-on bag on the x-ray machine (with a firearm in it) and you are not on official business, you will likely get charged with carrying a firearm where prohibited.

You CAN have it in your checked baggage to go under the aircraft. Just make sure and DECLARE the weapon when entering the airport and proceeding to the ticket counter. By that I mean tell the airline person at the ticket counter there is an unloaded weapon (properly packaged) in your checked baggage to go under the aircraft. If it is not declared, I don't think we'd hit you with any charges locally (although we can), but the TSA may throw a civil fine on you. Properly packaged by being in a hard-case with a lock, unloaded (on a side note).

By the way, any firearms at a checkpoint (in your carry-on) will not only land a weapons charge, but a minimum $3000 fine by the TSA. LEO's should know the procedures for flying with a weapon. If you are not on official business where you need to carry it on your person, check it underneath the aircraft. Unfortunately, officer discretion is not something we can use if you accidentally bring a handgun through the checkpoint in your carry-on bag. We automatically have to arrest the owner of the weapon, no exceptions. Hope this helps. Anymore questions, I'll throw some links in to the TSA and procedures for civilian folks on transporting weapons. ;)