Why do some departments require college credits(education)?

[RazielKayne]

See thread title.

[corporal716]

So they get people who can read and write. They don't want to spend the time and money putting someone into the academy only to have them fail.

I never got my degree, but had enough units to be hired. Some agencies only require High School or a GED.

[txinvestigator1]

and in addition to that...Successful College shows that the applicant has the ability to follow through on committment and shows a certain maturity.

[phuzz01]

and shows a certain maturity.

hehe, haven't been to college recently, have you TX? :D :p

[txinvestigator1]

hehe, haven't been to college recently, have you TX?

;) certain being the key word

[RazielKayne]

So they get people who can read and write. They don't want to spend the time and money putting someone into the academy only to have them fail.

I never got my degree, but had enough units to be hired. Some agencies only require High School or a GED.

Ok.

I guess college graduates are better people and more qualified.

[corporal716]

Ok.

I guess college graduates are better people and more qualified.

No, but they are less of a risk when it comes to paying their way through an academy and getting them though an FTO program.

Like I said not all departments require college. I don't have a degree and I have worked for two depatments.

[razdaz]

You know what being a college graduate signifies? It signifies that the person is willing to do what it takes to accomplish a goal.

Now, why is that bad?

[RazielKayne]

You know what being a college graduate signifies? It signifies that the person is willing to do what it takes to accomplish a goal.

Now, why is that bad?

College is not bad. I just don't want to waste money knowing that college isn't for me (right now). For example, my friend is in college and getting C's and D's in every course. He's slacking off tremendously. IMO, he's wasting his parent's money. But, a person that slacks off can still get a degree and be ahead of the competition.

I can do well in the academy. I may not be the best candidate (someone is always better) but my burning desire will help me make it through. I personally think those departments shouldn't require candidates to have a college degree. After all, what's the point of the vigorous process of becoming a police officer? It's tough because that's how they hire good candidates, right?

[ngcsubutterbar]

it really is for making sure someone can read and write and not sound like an idiot. In order to pass a college class, and thus get some sort of degree, that student 'has' to demonstrate competence in reading and writing. This reasoning is also exactly why many state university systems are making their english classes much harder.

[ngcsubutterbar]

just FYI and WIW, the Georgia Highschool grad test was a joke, I'd rate it at something a 9th grader should be able to do. The University system Of GA Regent's test was closer to 12th grade level.

[RazielKayne]

Why not have an essay and some grammar questions on the police exam? If not on the initial exam, then sometime thereafter.

[Matt28]

Not only to gain knowledge like math and proper writing/speaking which is essential in police work, but I think college really has a positive effect on you. You become more mature ( usually), have better reasoning abilities, and more open to others ideas and lifestyle which can really benefit you.

[ngcsubutterbar]

it also teaches critical thinking. It isn't always about right or wrong according to a book. Hell, a very prominent professor of mine encourages people to talk about answers to quiz questions he gives on daily basis. Things that come mainly from T/F questions. When students see something wrong about the wording of the question, or can prove the question wrong, even if the instructor intended for it to be a 'true' question, he encourages people to speak out.

This unfortuantly, is not the norm for many places, and many subjects, yet with the exception of science based courses and good english courses, much of the work is no harder than what high school 'should' be.

However, the MAIN exception is the ability to use critical thinking skills in college courses when ussage of such skills is either unlearned in HS or really frowned on when you use them.

[ngcsubutterbar]

Why not have an essay and some grammar questions on the police exam? If not on the initial exam, then sometime thereafter.

I don't care if someone is a Chaucer or Hemingway protoge, you can not teach yourself english. All high school does is give that person what it needs to survive day to day in mainly spoken english. One can not learn grammar without an instructor and HS instructors just can't teach what's needed to be taught.