Traffic cops and sportbikes

[Gixxervan1000]

Thanks to Jennifer for making us all realize that it all comes down to women.

...and now that people have cooled off, let's get back to the subject(s) at hand...

Cops are butts and bikers are always right. ;)

[03BlackChevy]

I most certainly can call myself a responsible rider. I'm older. I dont race, don't do stunts, I wear my gear, Im polite to other cars, even when they're not polite to me, and yes...I even follow the speed limits for the most part. But I will rephrase some things for some of you though who like to take things out of context, not that it's going to make much of a difference it seems.

As a sportbiker, going fast is inherent in the ride. Do you know why most of us go out of the city limits to ride? Because there is little to no traffic out there. We go out there because we know it's not safe to ride briskly on public city hwy's and roads. Now although there are times when the speeds MAY exceed triple digits (no...not 150 necessarily either), it's not constant and usually contained to a couple of occasions on a ride that lasts a few hours. I'm not going to give you a lecture about being safe at fast speeds, because not even a moto gp racer could get that through your head, but if there is no one around going 45...then they are not in danger are they? Not saying it's okay to do so, but you can't tell me there is no consideration for public safety, in doing so.

Now regarding my personal occasions, I said I have only been pulled over twice unfairly. Both for BS reasons, both harrassment. One was in broad daylight on a sunny day when a suburb cop pulls me over for not being able to see my license plate light. Did he know how stupid he sounded when he asked me that? The next time was when I banked my bike over a couple of times in my own lane to move around some objects in the road, and a cop pulls me over because he said I was swerving from one lane to the next. (and this one I did argue at the scene, and yes, I won that argument because I had a witness, my GF on her own bike who was behind me in the lane over, who also knew damn well I didn't pass in front of her) Those are the reasons why I use my lawyer. For BS like that.

Now in regards to the timing of me getting pulled over, "shortly after" can mean minutes, it can mean days. It's relative. You guys never pull me over doing triples, but are quick to pull me over for license plate lights, swerving to miss things in the road, wanting to check my inspection sticker for no other reason then to have an excuse to check for warrants...sorry charlie don't have any! It's those occasions that I feel they are looking for things just to get us off the road. Those are the times Im pulled over for "nothing" and for "BS".

And to good ol' black chevy who I guess is 16, wait till you grow up to learn to speak with adults. Funny how the speed limit is 65 but the flow of traffic including LEO's is 80. And the only ones getting pulled over for going with the flow of traffic are the bikes. That's how I got out of my last ticket. The cop pulls me over telling me Im going 90, I said that's funny, when I was right beside you, YOU were going 80...so he gave me a warning for informing him of that little tidbit.

To the LEO guys, it's obvious there are people in here that are doing nothing but adding non beneficial rhetoric to the questions, please disregard it. And to the sportbike guys that have obviously filtered in, let's try to show some more respect because it's the bad attitudes that are only helping to bring us more attention. And we know what "bringing attention to ourselves" can do.

What Im hoping to achieve here is some insight as to why the relationship between LEO's and sportbikers is the way it seems right now. Some of the comments on both ends of the spectrum are only showing the animosity, not the reasons why.

haha, I'm more grown up then you seem to be, You admitted out loud that you HAVE WENT IN TRIPLE DIGITS, thats not being safe now is it?

[Gixxervan1000]

haha, I'm more grown up then you seem to be, You admitted out loud that you HAVE WENT IN TRIPLE DIGITS, thats not being safe now is it?

Huh? I'm not going to even try.

[P01IC3M4N]

But then....wasn't he speeding too? He gave me a warning... since I brought that little tidbit up to him.

in texas, police patrols are exempt from all speed limitations regardless of whether they are going to an emergency or not.

i'm a traffic cop and likewise, most of the cops i hang out with are also in traffic. many of them ride motorcycles and are passionate about them. and let me be the first to inform you, but they cannot stand the squids who ride wheelies down the middle of the freeway and cut in and out of traffic. a lot of the cops also ride sport bikes and do you think they don't notice how much general traffic can't stand them now? they'll be the first to rip into sport bike riders.

[Gixxervan1000]

I hear what you're saying. I have the same distaste for the guys that rip wheelies down the highway and weave in and out of traffic, and I don't do that myself...so I have no problem with that.

I know a few cops myself that ride bikes, and one of them already crashed his from underestimating the bike's power. It was kinda ironic. Once on a sportbike the LEO's ride just like the rest of us.

I think the problem comes when we (the more responsible riders) get pulled over for things that are not that big of a deal, when in fact they could be pulling over the people that are doing the wheelies and what not. I think it's a matter of lumping us all in one group, it is understandable to a point, the real problem comes I guess when the cops are just having a **** attitude for routine stops for the guys that are NOT doing the crazy stuff. Like going 15 over and things like that.

And this last bit is not meant to antagonize you, but merely to clarify, It's my understanding that the police are not above the law, but are there to enforce the law and protect public safety. They are bound by the same rules and regulations as any citizen. It's illegal for me to do drugs, it's illegal for you (the LEO) to do drugs. It's illegal for me to kill outside of justifiable self defense, it's illegal for you to kill aside from it being a necessity to perform your duties. So how is it, that LEO's in TX, get to break the law, or are being placed above the law, by not having to obey speed limits even when they are not on call? Don't really see the justification in that. And the officer a couple days ago didn't say a word about it. So Im just curious at this point.

[Jynkxxie]

Enough with the name calling.

[txinvestigator1]

And this last bit is not meant to antagonize you, but merely to clarify, It's my understanding that the police are not above the law, but are there to enforce the law and protect public safety. They are bound by the same rules and regulations as any citizen. It's illegal for me to do drugs, it's illegal for you (the LEO) to do drugs. It's illegal for me to kill outside of justifiable self defense, it's illegal for you to kill aside from it being a necessity to perform your duties. So how is it, that LEO's in TX, get to break the law, or are being placed above the law, by not having to obey speed limits even when they are not on call? Don't really see the justification in that. And the officer a couple days ago didn't say a word about it. So Im just curious at this point.

Regardless if you like it or not, Police Patrols are exempt from laws regulating speed, direction of movement and parking. Most mature, responsible adults understand the need for this.

[txinvestigator1]

Please ban me now.

:rolleyes:

You are going to have a life of misery and "hassle" with your attitude. BTW, the guy you yelled at is 16 YEARS OLD!

[catchme]

Please ban me now.

This is obviously a very very touchy subject. I don't exactly agree with Blitz but he is entitled to his opinion.

All that I ask of you LEOs is the same respect that you expect from me. Don't approach me with an attitude right off the bat because I was going 10 miles over the speed limit.

Some of us are very responsible sport bike riders and are trying to change the image of sport bike riders everywhere. Just know that if you guys treat us with respect then we will treat you with respect. Even if you catch me doing a wheelie, just tell me what it is I am being ticketed for and THAT IS IT. DON'T GIVE ME AN ATTITUDE BECAUSE THEN I WILL RETURN THE FAVOR AND ADD MY LAWYERS TO THE MIX.

BE PROFESSIONAL AND APPROACH EACH STOP AS A SEPARATE INSTANCE. DON'T GROUP US ALL . .

[txinvestigator1]

TDON'T GIVE ME AN ATTITUDE BECAUSE THEN I WILL RETURN THE FAVOR AND ADD MY LAWYERS TO THE MIX.

Who cares? Go ahead and spend extra money for a lawyer. Give attitude back and GO TO JAIL.

You just don't get it, do you?

[03BlackChevy]

welp I say that all the dumb sportbike riders have came and showed us why cops pay more attention to them.... Hrm all of the above ones mostly have went on outrages...

Call me immature or whatever, remember we all have a right to our opinions, and all have a right to whatever motorcycle we want, and another, were all innocent until proven guilty =)




you can out run the cops in the car, but you can't out run the radio ;)

[catchme]

Who cares? Go ahead and spend extra money for a lawyer. Give attitude back and GO TO JAIL.

You just don't get it, do you?

Actually I do get it, cops have tried to harass me before and failed miserably. So why don't you move up to MA and try to harass me and let's see how long your department keeps you on the force.

That is the one thing that a great attorney lives for, COPS THAT LIVE TO HARASS.

[Switchback]

It's obvious that peope are having a difficult time discussing this topic in an adult manner.

Thread closed.